To think this man at the cinema was plain nasty?

[WombatCat]

Dh and I watched a film at the cinema on Saturday night.

There was a young man a few rows back from us with very vocal Tourette's. Obviously it was distracting to most people around him, but once the film started I didn't find it an issue. However, one man decided to tell him to shut up and "isn't there a special showing you could go to?"

Quite a few people appeared to be in agreement with him. I now wish I said something.

As long as people can see that they are still gorgeous children when they are making noise in a public place, or when they grow up and expect to be able to partake in everyday life in the same way as everyone else - then the campaign will be working.

Truly disgusting post..I have no words.

If MNHQ lets that stand it makes a mockery of their campaign.

They arent equal in ability. They are disabled. Hence we need to make adjustments to allow them to have equal quality of life.

Jeeze.

hawk why do you think you have more of a right to watch a film uninterrupted than someone with a disability?

I don't understand why you think you have that right at all?

To be honest Hawksmoon, the fact that you have clearly not bothered to contemplate for a moment that the cinema may be one of a very very few possible leisure activities for a person with SN, and continue to shrug and betray a pretty smug indifference to the upset this causes several of the parents on this thread, does not make you sound like a very nice person.

What disgusts you? A request for equality?

Seriously, I don't understand.

I was asked to leave a concert last year because I had a persistent cough. That was completely understandable! I was disturbing other people who had paid for their tickets.

Clearly people with louder disabilities have the right to enjoy the ballet as much as their disability allows.

Everyone else has the right to enjoy the ballet as much as the rest of the audience allows....

There is no protected right to enjoy public events as if you were the only person there....it just doesn't exist!

hawk equality is everyone who bought a ticket being allowed to watch the film....or watch the ballet...or anything else.

This includes people with louder disabilities. If they have paid their money they get to watch. End of discussion.

If someone with a loud verbal tic was disturbing someone with a different disability in the cinema, would it be ok to object?

Pag - I take your point. I'm just trying to put across the views of someone who thinks that we should all show consideration for everyone.

I don't think that's offensive.

Hawk you want a BETTER standard of experience for those without loud disabilities than those with. How can that be equality?

"If someone with a loud verbal tic was disturbing someone with a different disability in the cinema, would it be ok to object?"

No. Everyone who has bought a ticket has an equal right to be there.

What disgusts you? A request for equality?
But you are not asking for equality and you can't seem to see that.
The playing field is not level, it never has been and you are one of the bumps.

Not sure I want to be part of a forum where threads full of the stuff on this one stand tbh.

I left before but came back because I was heartened by the campaign and by the fact MNHQ said they would take.a.firmer stand on disablism.

And they did with the panto thread.

But this is pretty much the same and has been left in the interests of healthy debate.

It doesn't feel healthy for me

I may as well.go and join the Daily Mail forum if I want to read such tripe.

Very sad as I thought things had improved here. Obviously not.

I just called the roh. To satisfy my own curiosity. I asked whether it would be appropriate to bring someone with a loud verbal tic to the ballet. They were CHARMING but said probably not. Anyone disturbing the audience (and cast) would be asked to leave.

It's just totally bonkers to think that you have a right to a life unperturbed by disability, just because you yourself do not have a disability.

I would imagine any of the able bodied parents of children with disabilities will agree with this.

Just because you may be lucky enough to be able to isolate yourself from disability most of the time doesn't mean you have the right to isolation period.

You don't get a choice about how and when disability impinges on your existence...you just don't.

The Royal Opera House would not be allowed to discrimanate on the grounds of someone's disability.

It's against the law.

hawk so finding evidence of others prejudice makes your own okay?

Wow. nice logic.

Discriminate*

Hawk you haven't answered anything I have said.

Why do you think the able bodied should have the right to uninterrupted cinema viewing when the disabled do not?

How do you make that out to be equality?

ice I don't want to have a life hndusturbed by disability. I do want to watch the ballet in peace!

It's not against the law to require silence from an audience.

Why do you feel you have the right to watch the ballet in peace when those that have a loud disability do not.

How can you view this as striving for equality?

fanjo plenty of us myself included have elarnt a lot from you and other posters, so pease dotn leave.

hawk providing equality for people with special needs means at times making allowances and understanding that they may not adhere to perfect etiquette at all times, ie noise in a cinema or a theater, its called making a reasonable adjustment/allowance and is backed by law.

dawn are you still coming out tonight? I am desperate for a night off, can't wait to see you :)