To think this man at the cinema was plain nasty?

[WombatCat]

Dh and I watched a film at the cinema on Saturday night.

There was a young man a few rows back from us with very vocal Tourette's. Obviously it was distracting to most people around him, but once the film started I didn't find it an issue. However, one man decided to tell him to shut up and "isn't there a special showing you could go to?"

Quite a few people appeared to be in agreement with him. I now wish I said something.

Oh TooMuch I'm so sorry you've come on here and read this shit

Thankfully it's in the minority, and there's been a tonne of support as well, unfortunately it's only vile posts that stand out for their sheer abhorrence.

I'm so sad to think you haven't experienced things like theatre trips etc because of the way other people may react, and it does make me worry for my boys, but I live in hope that if we keep talking, keep educating, that one day, it'll turn around.

and an un-mumsnetty hug for you

Thanks Fanjo, I suppose the good point is the equal number of good, kind people who show understanding. I think those of us touched by disability and difference have much more understanding of others.
I'm lucky also to have friends who can see past the tics.
Mustn't get so emotional over MN threads

Thanks allthatglistens I really hope things improve, i often think they are and people are getting more educated and understanding. I think us ticcers are quite resilient and good humoured generally. But then just takes one idiot person, ill thought out joke, or crappy posts on mumsnet and it feels gutting all over again!

I can't deal with the 'reasoned prejudice' that people display on here, and in real life.

Its all around me, everything I try and do, try and arrange, 9/10 times it will be made so hard that I have to make myself ill trying to persevere, and I have to keep on trying because I cannot let this society leave me isolated, locked up and pathetically grateful for any tiny crumb thrown at me.

Everything is so fuvking hard, and it's relentless. Most nights, I wish I was dead, as that's the only way things will ever stop being such a battle - but I have to carry on for my little boy. So I get up and do it all again the next day.

Being disabled is so fuckkng hard. And threads like this make it even harder. Mumsnet has been a lifeline for me, and yet I never know if I'm going to get understanding or cruelty and derision. Asked for help a few weeks ago on one of the boards, people couldn't pile in fast enough to tear me apart...

Life is so unutterably grinding, and I'm sorry to drag my baggage in, but that's what people need to understand... That life is HARD, everything they take for granted we have to FIGHT for, so when you are cross or feel somehow badly done to by having to have a disabled person be in your presence, being all disabled and stuff... Maybe you should think what your reaction does to that person, a person who has probably had to ensure negative reactions so many times a day.

Double life..so sorry you wish you were dead.

Seriously, PM me any time you want a listening ear x

Double, that is so shitty.

Why do people treat other human beings so bloody badly?

I am so sorry you feel that way Double

its not fair and i hope that at least one person changes their way of thinking after reading your post

again for you toomuch and for you too double

Naive of me, but I wish I could believe the people that posted their ill thought out, ignorant bile on here today could read your responses and actually stop to think, just once about you, and others who live with this reality every day.

It's all to easy to judge when you have no experience of disability and how utterly exhausting it is for the person afflicted and the people that love them, who want to do anything possible to help take some of the pain away.

I'd give anything, the last penny I had or the last drop of blood in my body for my boys not to have to live with this crap, but they do, and I have to do everything I can to help them in every way possible.

So, I try to believe that perhaps one person has read this, and the real, valid experiences of the people who've posted about how difficult it is, and feel some iota of shame, or realisation about the hardships people face every day.

Thankfully, for every idiot that's posted, there's been a lot that have responded with huge amounts of support. I hope that's helped take a tiny bit of the sting away, not that you should ever have had to have read it in the first place

Fuck me, I've heard it all now.

Special screenings and people feeling cheated because they spent some ££ at the cinema and they were disturbed by someone with a disability?

Jesus - In what world would this be acceptable?

Some of the dialogue here makes me hang my head in shame for being part of such an intolerent, cruel society.

I'd ask for a refund. I'd expect someone shouting abuse to be removed so I could watch my film. I'd hope the other guy would ask for a refund too so he could go see the bits he missed.

But my local never removes the irritating half drunk loud idiots who giggle and talk loudly.

wheresmycaffeine oh goodness, is a lot more to Tourette syndrome than 'shouting abuse'. I hope your DC never develop a condition which makes them have actions or vocalisations they cannot control. People with coprolalia (the swearing part of TS - only 10% of us with TS) we don't just 'shout abuse' and it would of been illegal for the cinema to remove the man for his disability.

Bein compared to 'drunk loud idiots' for a neurological condition is beyond offensive and you should be ashamed of your ignorance. I suggest you read some of the above posts.

I was talking about the nasty man who shouted not the poor guy. I hope he'd ask for a refund too.

In that case please accept my apologies for the misunderstood

Because mrsdv for every time we educate someone that's hopefully one less person whose going to be ignorant and narrow minded.

It just seems like a long fight doesn't it x

Although to be honest, the level of shouting and abuse tolerated in establishments towards staff and other people is quite high. I've never worked in a cinema but my friend has, I've worked in other customer facing jobs, and what money seems to pay for is quite disturbing. And the more they spend the more they allow off a person.

She's been called all sorts
I've been called all sorts
Customers have been called all sorts, but still they are allowed through the doors. Guess that explains why no one thinks anything of one or two customers being offensive.

Glad didn't tbh.

Got a mail from MNHQ which basically said although its not nice to read people dont like the noise ( from disabled people) it's not disablism and not deletable.

So a real firm stance is being taken on making people and their children with disabilities feel supported and welcome here.

Well I don't like the noise from twats.

How is it not disabilism if someone can't help making a noise due to their disability?

Apparently it only is if they say people with disabilities shouldn't attend.

Bit they can complain

"We understand that this sort of thread must be extremely frustrating to read at time. We do think there is a distinction between saying that you'd be annoyed at being disturbed at the cinema, and saying that people with disabilities shouldn't go the cinema, though obviously there are many shades of grey between this."

And the 'noise in the cinema' referred to in thr post I had reported was from someone unable to help it because of their disability

I will probably get deleted. But I was very shocked in light of recent campaign.

But surely if you complain about the noise from someone with a disability that is because of their disability then that would imply that you don't think they should be there?

Well I thought that Youthe