school crack down on hair colour

[mrsfuzzy]

new school year and problems already! ds is 14 and like a lot of girls her age experiments with her hair, for the first time during the school hols she tried a semi permanent raspberry colour on her red hair [god knows why- ex p let her do it] anyhow i was cool with that as it doesn't look that obvious, as she washes it it becomes less obvious, however school are cracking down on these things make up, uniform etc as they did last year, but she brought a note home yesterday saying to remove the dye or steps will be taken, i wasn't fazed by this as each wash reduces the colour, but how do people 'get away' with flouting the rules about such things one girl has dyed her hair jet black with blue streaks over the hols and mum told me she is not going to remove the colour for anyone, one lad keeps one side of his head shaved in spite of repeated warnings, mum says she ignores them, i accept the school policy that's not the problem but aibu to wonder why it seems the 'easy targets get picked on' to set an example? any thoughts or similar experiences anyone?

what a wonderful world it would be if schools actually concentrated on what really really mattered in life.

teaching children to respect themselves and others, be safe, get a modicum if education, to think outside if the box, to be an individual yes but one who sees societies rules as keeping them and the wider community safe and caring about other people in other countries/cultures.

that's what parents should be teaching their kids and schools reinforcing this.

uniform, footwear, makeup, hair?? WTAF.
what a waste of teachers time and energy and actually extremely childish and immature behaviour from adults to children.

A teaching assistant friend of mine just trotted out the old 'we are preparing them for the workplace' line. I'd be interested to see a workplace that inspected their female employees to check they weren't wearing sensible ankle boots of a morning.

I a TA and think its bollocks.

my sister is a deputy head in Sussex and she thinks its bollocks too.

She tells me she has a dress code, I asked if that included 'you cannot wear boots under trousers' but she didn't answer.
I don't want a uniform rebellion, I want equal treatment for ALL pupils and a modicum of common sense.

^ exactly just Common sense ^ you would think that's not a lot to ask from a school?

When I was at school if you were spotted on your journey home not wearing your hat it was an automatic detention. You had to collect your detention card at house assembly on Friday. These were mixed age assemblies. I doubt if the older pupils collecting detention cards were scarred by the experience

As I remember most of us were aware that the most effective way to avoid the situation was to follow the rules in the first place

A dunce cap is degrading to its wearer, only they were only worn for a short period of time.
Putting a year 11 pupil in a younger child's tie and insisting they wear it until they leave next May is completely degrading and incredibly humiliating for the child

Good God woman - could you be any more ridiculously melodramatic?

This thread has really reinforced to me that my decision to leave state education behind was the right one. Where I teach uniform is not an issue because neither the parents or the pupils make it one as they abide by the very reasonable rules. On this thread are some frankly hysterical parents who are too blinkered by their own 'outrage' and 'horror' that they cannot see that it is both them and their children not supporting the school on this simple one issue that is causing the problem! It is ridiculous! Stick by the school's rules and uniform ceases to be an issue.

But no, we would rather rant and froth on here and send precisely the wrong message to our children (the school is outrageous etc etc) than just put up, shut up and get on with allowing our kids to learn something.

Btw - I am not tarring all state parents with the same brush by any means as most of them are fabulously supportive. As this thread shows however you do get this vociferous and ridiculous minority who are unbearably precious who attack and undermine schools at every turn. I no longer encounter these parents as they would be shown the door. Indies are very lucky to have this option I know.

Who is blinkered mog? These are real children, real parents with real concerns. Live in your bubble if you like but you can't expel us from everywhere. Forget about us but we probably live down your street, in your town and will look after you when you get old.

What I am saying is that these 'concerns' are absolutely created by the people who are getting all worked up about them. Schools have rules in order to function. Pupils follow rules and everyone is happy. Pupils break rules supported by frothing parents and the school community suffers.

I have no idea what you are trying to say in your post btw but am treating it like the rest of the hysteria on here and ignoring it

m.youtube.com/watch?v=wXK20m6gKsE

There you go a song

Schools need rules in order to function. They do not need arbitrary, stupid rules though. There is plenty to make sensible rules about without resorting to spurious ones.

And your point is....

So who decides that a rule is 'arbitrary and stupid'? Oh yes - the parents on here who have no idea what it's like to be a secondary teacher and who think they know better.

Not your call though is it? It's the school's.

Don't write people off. If you've read my posts you know I'm not advocating making a fuss over nothing. However some schools get unnecessarily worked up over the minutest details of uniform.

Schools are supposed to serve the community. Parents and children are part of the community.

As this thread shows however you do get this vociferous and ridiculous minority who are unbearably precious who attack and undermine schools at every turn

I agree.

It appears though that they see themselves as some kind of oppressed element in society:

Live in your bubble if you like but you can't expel us from everywhere. Forget about us but we probably live down your street, in your town and will look after you when you get old

WTAF?

I'm not actually a massive uniform fan for its own sake, but I think if a school has fairly mainstream standards they can reasonably expect parents to support the school in ensuring that they are maintained. As I said, if pupils follow the expected code and parents support that, enforcement and punishment issues don't even come into play.

Don't assume the posters know nothing about teaching either.

No. It would be a mistake to think everyone who disagrees with you knows nothing about teaching.

Trouble is we are not necessarily talking about mainstream standards, ilovesooty.

As I said, if pupils follow the expected code and parents support that, enforcement and punishment issues don't even come into play

Precisely.

Are you a secondary school teacher daft?
Are you a secondary school teacher arbitrary?

Just out of interest more than anything else.

But you said you didn't get on with teaching within the state system mog. Are you saying you know what actually works for the demographic?

I'm not a teacher but it doesn't mean my opinion is worthless. I expect you post on all sorts of issues outside of your occupational 'expertise'.

Where have I ever said that I 'didn't get on' teaching in the state system? Do not put words in my mouth.

I spent many very happy years in the state system and loved my time there. What I did not love were the silly, entitled, undermining parents that I sometimes had to deal with - many of a similar ilk seem to be on this thread.

So you are not a teacher then. And don't know what it's like to teach in a big, busy secondary school. Ok.