To expect my local coffee shop to let me in with a pram?

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Will try to keep this brief. My local coffee shop owner has just refused me entry with a pram (not a massive silver cross call the midwife one, just a bugaboo style thing). He said he was busy (he wasn't, and although its a small place there were only two other customers inside) and that buggies had to be parked outside. I can see the logic of this, but a pram with a 5 week old sleeping baby in it isn't really a buggy is it? Or is it?

I should have remonstrated with the grumpy fecker of course, but it had taken me so long to get said infant out of the house and I was so hungry and tired I thought I might embarrass myself and start blubbing. I beat a hasty retreat.

I've been fuming ever since of course. AIBU?

fire regs?? him being sued if someone tripped over your pram?

Your pram would probably be bigger than a buggy. Surely you can see that. It's coming up to lunchtime. He will be busy. Get over yourself. YABU.

Sorry YABU. I know it's difficult but not all restaurants or coffee shops have space for buggies or prams.

Sod him and find another coffee shop another day

As for today - treat yourself to a big fat cake and devour it at home over your own coffee :)

Well, I don't know the exact layout of the cafe, but but I don't think he is being U to ask you to leave buggy/pram/whatever outside.

I've seen so many cafes with buggies crammed in, cutting off seats for paying customers, often because precious mummies don't want to budge their babies or sit too far away from them. Not fair for the cafe owner at all.

You have a few options - find another cafe; carry a sling under your pram and put baby in it; get a takeaway coffee and sit in the park; ask if there is any way you can sit in if, eg, you park your pram at the back or in their garden....I think if you offer a solution rather than just stand in the doorway waiting for tables to be moved, cafe owners are happier to help.

YABU.

If he had limited space and your buggy would block access to tables etc I can see his point.

But it's hard to comment without knowing the lay out of the csfe.

He obviously doesn't want custom from the Yummy Mummy brigade. His prerogative. Take your money elsewhere.

YABU. I had a bike lock for my buggy/pram so I could leave it outside.

Or simpler still, I used a sling.

A pram with a five week old sleeping baby in it isn't really a buggy , is it?. It will take up the same space no matter what is in it, I'd imagine?

YABU.

It's his business and if he doesn't want buggies in there, that's up to him.

Personally, I'd like to see more buggy bans in coffee shops. Any more than one in most places, and it does make things more unpleasant for other customers.

Sorry but its another YABU from me.

As long as he was polite then I think he request was fair for a small coffee shop.

Some places are just too small to accomodate buggies/prams etc.

There are a couple of coffee shops that I can't use with ds, because his buggy gets in the way. Fortunately we live in a town with tons of cafes, so we go to those instead (especially Waitrose cafe who are lovely and move the chairs around to accomodate ds's buggy!) Do you have any other coffe shops in town?

It's just the way it is.

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...his request... Not ...he request..

If he wants to turn down your money, good luck to him, that's his lookout.

Go elsewhere and have a lovely big piece of cake

I think YABU. I would also invest in a sling and a bike lock.

Can understand his point. Used to work in coffee shop and prams were a nightmare. People would put them anywhere, in front of fire exits in middle of aises etc nighare trying to get round wiyh food

I had a bugaboo and they are bulky enough. It would probably be safer to carry hot drinks without having to watch out for wheels and handles too.

YABU.

I suppose I can see it from both sides really. Although if he can't fit a pram in his cafe then how can a wheelchair fit in? Wheelchairs are roughly the same width as the average pram aren't they?

When dd was little our local Next wouldn't let prams or wheelchairs in.

YABU

Yabu . His cafe, his rules