to wonder why the USA isn't taking a more forceful stance on Syria?

[holidaybug]

I don't profess to know or understand the full details but I am surprised that Obama isn't taking a stronger stance on this. Hasn't the line been crossed for sure now?

[cantspel]

holidaybug there are human rights atrocities being committed in many places in the world today. North Korea, china, pakistan the list is endless and we cant look to the west to solve every world problem.

[slenderman]

so do you suggest tea and cake for a solution?

[holidaybug]

Yes, I agree but this is about using chemical weapons indiscriminately against innocent civilians on a mass scale.

[ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmmmmmmm]

"The world is more inter-connected than that - we can't ignore what happens in other countries."

Absolutely, OP.

Remember that next time some mealy mouthed politician wants to "arm the rebels"". And you're wondering, as you take off from Heathrow, if one of the anti aircraft missiles we sent them is now in a van, near the perimeter fence, waiting to take out the plane you're on........

[slenderman]

fuck all these kids being killed yet my suggesting a major bombing campaign get the sign

lordy

good job mn wasn't around for nazi germany

[LEMisdisappointed]

I don't have the solution, it is clear that no one does - but just letting it happen is blatantly not the solution! Can you imagine if people just stood by and let Hitlter do what the fuck he liked?

[LEMisdisappointed]

So do you think we should go for a discrete and targeted campaign the slender or an all out nuclear strike and sort it once and for all?

[cantspel]

North Korea has killed more than 3 millon of their own people but as we dont see pictures of dead NK babies on the news no one is calling for the US to intervene there.

The whole arab spring has turned into a arab winter and they need to find their own peace. We cant impose it.

[Lazyjaney]

Yeah and I'd bet you'd be the first moaning if there was an atrocity happening on your doorstep and no one came to help

Yeah but at least by keeping ourvarmy at home they'd be here to help.

And besides, being over there they are going to wind up every flavour of Islamic extremist going, so it increases the chance of an atrocity happening on my doorstep.

[slenderman]

we should do something as opposed to fuck all as we are now doing

[holidaybug]

I've had a close miss in a terrorist incident - I know first hand that we cannot afford to ignore what goes on elsewhere. So thanks for the advice.

[LEMisdisappointed]

but what then slenderman? What do you propose?

[EldritchCleavage]

What you do propose, OP?

[holidaybug]

Are your kids in the armed forces? Is that what is driving your comments?

[ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmmmmmmm]

Actually, OP, what do you think Obama should "do"....

[slenderman]

well bomb the fuck out of these idiots then worry about it

or watch kids being killed year after year

[ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmmmmmmm]

No - no kids in Armed Forces. But aware that they are all someones children.

[Misspixietrix]

I read the UN can't intervene without everyones' Agreement. At First China and Russia refused then China relented but I dont believe Russia has Changed their mind Yet. I too am getting frustrated at them as technically isnt this the 2nd red Line Assad has crossed. I totally understsnd the damned if they Do damned if they dont perceptive though. If they leave them they get told they arent doing enough and if they went in they would probably be.criticized for.interfering ~

[LEMisdisappointed]

what about those children in syria? do we just pretend its not happening? I don't have the answers, if i did, i suppose id be in government - we look to our government to do something.

[slenderman]

little childrens bodies in the news day after days

who can realisically live with that

the men responsible for these actions should be fucking shot at dawn, am sick of it

[holidaybug]

I know they are someone's children and I know that is a really difficult issue in all of this. But neither do I think it is possible to turn inwards as a country and ignore what is going on elsewhere.

But saying 'send your kids to die' is not on IMO.

[LEMisdisappointed]

yes i agree slender - 100% except why wait til dawn? But bombing the entire middle east is a bit counter productive surely? I just want an end to it all - I don't even know why they are fighting, i wonder if they do? now, anymore? :( War just goes on and on and on, i wonder if negotiating is the way forward?

[cantspel]

So what should the west do?

Go out and bomb the fuck out of them and kill a few thousand babies themselves?

Or maybe if Obama turned up with a box of cookies and some nice herbal tea they could all kiss and make up

[ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmmmmmmm]

LEMis, I know. The feeling that "something" should be done.

Absolutely understandable. And a recipe for disaster.

Both the Russians, and the Chinese have their own reasons for worrying about the spread of militant Islam.