Aibu to have thought that the class system ended when the servant system did?

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I am Irish living in Ireland but did live in UK for a number years. I honestly thought that the class system was dead and buried and yet I have seen it mentioned on here quiet frequently.
Does it still exist, if so can you give me an idea of what type of people belong in each class, how does your occupation influence your class and indeed your behaviour? Can people move up and down classes according to their own life style? And how much is this class system actually acknowledged today?
Personally speaking I am glad there is no class system here in Ireland.

No class system in Ireland?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

Everywhere has a "class system", regardless of where in the world it is and for anyone to deny it is foolish.

No class system in Ireland? Really? You'd have thought you'd do your research really before starting a discussion on such an in-depth subject.

I genuinely don't think there is and if does exist its not in the formal way it is/was in England. For example if someone is wealthy they are called rich, well off or something similar not upperclass. If someone is poor they are not seen as lower class just not well off. People who behave without class/manners are knackers.

One of the many the many things I adore about Ireland is staying with lovely people in gorgeous houses, eating glorious breakfasts and riding and fishing on their private acres.

FFS, keep it a secret OP!

I live in Ireland and people here do not refer to classes, I have never ever seen it referred to on an Irish forum as I would on a Uk one.
Why so defensive? Is it really that taboo of a subject, these are genuine questions, I am curious to know why I have hit such a raw nerve? Can I ask what class people see themselves as?

Class and wealth regularly get confused.

I am working class.

If I won the lottery or married into wealth or got an amazing job with a huge salary i'd still be working class.

I too am Irish living in Ireland and if you think there is no class system here you are dream

It's about your background and where you're from.

you want to know class system?

top nobs are the royals , bank owners/managers ,and the politicians.

the rest of us are not important according to them!!

I too am Irish living in Ireland and if you think there is no class system here you are dreaming.

Oops, double-post

Which publication did you want the quote for? I'm sure we can help

Interesting minty, what sort of class system? Do you believe we have an upper, middle working and lower class or something else?
I suppose when I started the thread this is what I was referring to, due to Ireland's history, lack of aristocrats etc i don't think a similar class system could exist.

Lol publication?? My own curiousness, like I said this is something I never see referred to on Irish forums but on here I have seen it mentioned a few times,
Once while living in the uk I can remember an English colleague referring to himself as middle class. Apparently because his parents were (one was a retired headmaster then a judge) he was but the ret of us whom he worked with were working class, he wasn't because of his parents.
We all laughed it off and thought he was an archaic "tosspot".

The upper class Irish people I have ever met are the ones that when you ask them where they are from (assuming somewhere in England, due to their RP accent) say Are-land.

If you refer to your parents as mummy and daddy in general conversation with friends/colleagues then middle/upper class you are apparently..

I live in England, I never hear people talk about class in real life. It's a Mumsnet thing.

Really Who? I refer to mine as The Frootloops. Because they are. I shudder to think where that leaves me. Somewhere unspeakable no doubt

I am also from Ireland and really surprised at how often 'class' is referred to on this site .

Lol who, my dc call me mam I wonder what class that would put me in , hopefully above the ones who call their mother ma.

I'm Irish, I live in a relatively rural area.
I don't think we have a class system.

I'm not aware of it if we have.

I think the Celtic tiger made people a bit crazy here, that's the only thing I can think of that would make people assume a divide.
A lot of showy, vulgar, material purchases don't make you a class above anyone.

YABU- The class system is alive and kicking- I know as I've been thrown into working and middle classes many times and been accepted by neither...

The class syetem is becoming more skewd in England due to it becoming accepted that marriage between classes is OK- maybe that's why people can't see it.

My DM was brought up very middle class,(Mummy, daddy, Harrods,private school etc) she was a rebel and has always been working class as an adult, her relationships have always been with working class men or men who's parents are immigrants- usually caribbean. We grew up on council estates. We always had expensive clothes/ shoes as DM believed they were better and GPs bought us lots.

My sister and I went to private schools (on scholarships and bursaries) so mingled with mostly middle class people.

DP is working class and has built up a successful business which means we can afford for me to SAH, we own our own house and would like to send dd to private secondary school.

What class are we in then??

whose

Obviously there is snobbery and class division in Ireland, but you would never ever see class discussed so openly on an Irish forum.

It's a bit taboo to discuss it in Ireland outside your own rank :-p.

Also, in the UK some very ordinary people pretend to be a cut above buttermilk. If it was obvious even to a foreigner that they were a bit fake I dread to think how obvious it was to the Brits!

Meanwhile in Ireland, I think posh people play it down a bit, or at least, have a chameleon-like ability to assimilate. Look at Richard Boyd-Barrett. I admire him and his background is privileged and educated but his accent changes with the wind.

Also, another difference between the classes in Ireland and Britain that mobility is allowed. At the top of the food chain, newcomers are allowed so long as they play by the rules.

The Middletons would be admired in Ireland. They came from humble origins and worked hard at their own business and spent their own money on their children's education, a nice house, a good life.. That would be more admired in Ireland I think.

In Ireland there are a whole load of different clues! I spot if people say cupboard or press!