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AIBU?

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AIBU in thinking employers should be able to refuse to employ smokers?

TiggyD · 2013-08-05T21:17:35+00:00

1. You should judge aplicants on their decisions. Yes. They chose to smoke which means they're likely to die earlier, smell, be ill etc. They have made a really bad decision: To smoke. 2. If they say they regret their decision but can't give up they're addicts. I would tend to avoid giving known drug addicts or alcoholics a job, and the same goes for tobacco addicts.

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TiggyD · 05/08/2013 22:17

You should judge aplicants on their decisions. Yes. They chose to smoke which means they're likely to die earlier, smell, be ill etc. They have made a really bad decision: To smoke.

If they say they regret their decision but can't give up they're addicts. I would tend to avoid giving known drug addicts or alcoholics a job, and the same goes for tobacco addicts.

OP posts:

sonlypuppyfat · 05/08/2013 22:18

I loath and detest smoking but thats a bit strong OP

TallyGrenshall · 05/08/2013 22:18

whois · 05/08/2013 22:19

Well... It's not illegal yet so YABU at the moment.

Although I agree with you to some extent.

ClaraOswald · 05/08/2013 22:19

Are you trying to stir things up?

soontobeburns · 05/08/2013 22:20

Plonkysaurus · 05/08/2013 22:20

Joke, right?

IncrediblePhatTheInnkeepersCat · 05/08/2013 22:21

Have my very first MN

thisisyesterday · 05/08/2013 22:21

ModreB · 05/08/2013 22:21

I would like to reply in the manner that I wish. But I am too polite. And a non-smoker.

YABVVU

SkinnybitchWannabe · 05/08/2013 22:21

Another unoriginal thread. Learn to spell ffs

iliketea · 05/08/2013 22:22

YABU unless you would have some way of assessing every potential employee's bad decisions.

Debt?
Not exercising enough?
Not eating a healthy diet?
The list could be endless.

LarryMcNue · 05/08/2013 22:22

And fat people too right?

Sirzy · 05/08/2013 22:22

You could go on forever -

If someone likes a drink would you stop them?

If they drive a car they be injured in a crash and not able to work

Overweight people - more likely to have a heart attack and need time off best not employ them!

Women - well they might have the audacity to want children and expect maternity leave!

Wallison · 05/08/2013 22:22

[blows smoke in OP's face]

notallytuts · 05/08/2013 22:22

they can, and some do

spicywalrus · 05/08/2013 22:23

YABU

Original poster

TiggyD · 05/08/2013 22:23

No it's not illegal. Alcohol isn't illegal either. If I told my boss I need a 5 minute break a couple of times a day for a quick Snakebite, what would she say?

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whois · 05/08/2013 22:23

And fat people too right?

Yeah, obvs.

squoosh · 05/08/2013 22:24

I'd take up smoking again just so I could then blow smoke in your face and stub my cigarette out on your sitting room floor.

tethersend · 05/08/2013 22:24

What if you took up smoking?

What if you gave up?

What if you smoked in secret or only away from work?

Would you not employ anyone who drank?

Sirzy · 05/08/2013 22:24

Ye coz getting pissed at work is comparable to having a cigarette at your break isn't it!

ImagineJL · 05/08/2013 22:24

YANBU

tethersend · 05/08/2013 22:25

So it's ok to smoke just not during the working day?

Plenty of places stipulate this already.

sonlypuppyfat · 05/08/2013 22:25

TiggyD its just like you are looking for a row, why

Ifancyashandy · 05/08/2013 22:25

A snakebite a few times a day would cloud your judgement & ability to make decisions.

Smoking doesn't. HTH.

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