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AIBU?

AIBU in thinking employers should be able to refuse to employ smokers?

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TiggyD · 05/08/2013 22:17

  1. You should judge aplicants on their decisions. Yes. They chose to smoke which means they're likely to die earlier, smell, be ill etc. They have made a really bad decision: To smoke.


  1. If they say they regret their decision but can't give up they're addicts. I would tend to avoid giving known drug addicts or alcoholics a job, and the same goes for tobacco addicts.
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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 06/08/2013 20:34

I guess I did have something to add...

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Alisvolatpropiis · 06/08/2013 20:43

Yabu.

Also not all smokers shave time off their days having fags breaks.

In much the same way not all coffee/tea drinkers don't all shave at least an hour off their working day titting around in the kitchen "doing a round".

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Alisvolatpropiis · 06/08/2013 20:47

As far as I am aware have 20 fags a day does not impact ones ability to work.

Unlike drinking and drug taking. So that's a rather stupid argument OP.

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Wabbitty · 06/08/2013 21:09

This is what I got told on a fairly recent stop smoking course.

"If a company employs 1000 people (say the NHS) how many is it effectively employing to smoke full time?

Based on 20% prevalence = 200 smokers
Taking 4 x 15 minute unscheduled breaks per day = 200 hours per day
1000 hours per week
1000 hours per week divided by 37.5 (standard working week) = 26.6 full time effectives"

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Bogeyface · 06/08/2013 21:26

Wabbity

Those figures are based on people being allowed to have those breaks. As I and many others have said, there are very very few places that would allow that. I suppose people who manage their own workload could do it but then they would have to make the time up to finish the job so they are not actually stealing time.

I read somewhere that nicotine has antidepressant qualities which is why the first thing many ex smokers do when hit with bad times or depression is to start smoking again. Makes sense as those are the times when I have started again after being off them for several years.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 06/08/2013 22:57

wabbity

I'm a smoker and have never taken an extra "smoking break". I have the same breaks as my non smoking colleagues.

I know I am not alone in this.

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JenaiMorris · 07/08/2013 06:09

What about the nonsmokers who chat for ages in the kitchen?

There are piss takers of all persuasions.

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