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To expect to payment for summer holidays after working in a school?

53 replies

MeantToStopAtTwo · 24/07/2013 21:57

Just left a job in a private school. Will be starting a new one in September. If I worked in a state school I would receive payment over the summer holidays (please correct me anyone if I am wrong). My employer however stopped paying me the day I left, despite my contract stating an annual salary and not an hourly or daily rate.

I am lucky in that my DH earns enough for us to scrape by until September. However there are others where I worked who feel trapped as they would be forced to find alternative temporary employment for the summer if they were to move on.

AIBU to think this is wrong?

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IwishIwasmoreorganised · 24/07/2013 21:58

What does your contract say? Then I'll tell you if YABU or not!

HollyBerryBush · 24/07/2013 21:58

Did you get (a months) notice money?

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman · 24/07/2013 21:59

When did you hand your notice in?

Turniptwirl · 24/07/2013 22:00

Yabu

You left a job which finished in June or July

Your new job doesn't start til September

Why should either pay you to not work for two months?

MeantToStopAtTwo · 24/07/2013 22:00

Contract makes no mention of the matter, just says that a certain salary will be paid based on a 40 week year (so the rest should surely be paid holiday?).

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manicinsomniac · 24/07/2013 22:01

It depends on your contract.

If I left the private school I work in I would be paid until 31st August.

But private schools, I expect, can do as they please on that one.

Morally though, YANBU.

Fraxinus · 24/07/2013 22:02

You really have to check your contract. The academic year, I believe, actually ends on 31st July. Many people working in schools on new style contracts get paid up to then, nothing in August, and start a new contract on 1st September.

manicinsomniac · 24/07/2013 22:02

Also, thinking about it, we don't actually get paid for holidays, we get a 9 months salary spread out over the year - so, you've already worked for the money so yes you should get it!

FannyMcNally · 24/07/2013 22:02

It depends whether your salary is divided into 12 equal payments or whether you get paid monthly for hours worked. Also if you handed your notice in and said you were leaving on the last day of term they have obviously taken you literally!

flowery · 24/07/2013 22:03

If you are still employed you should be paid. Are you still employed? How much notice did you give and what termination date?

popgoesthecat · 24/07/2013 22:03

can you work it out on how much you got each month?

MeantToStopAtTwo · 24/07/2013 22:03

My point exactly Manic.

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Fraxinus · 24/07/2013 22:03

So what notice period is req'd on the contract?

HollyBerryBush · 24/07/2013 22:04

Contract makes no mention of the matter, just says that a certain salary will be paid based on a 40 week year (so the rest should surely be paid holiday?).

You wont get paid I'm afraid, your holiday pay will be pro rata on the 40 weeks you do work. You will have been paid that already over half terms/Christmas/Easter. In fact you might owe them a weeks money.

FannyMcNally · 24/07/2013 22:05

lol at 12 weeks paid holiday! Where is the school? I want that job!

IwishIwasmoreorganised · 24/07/2013 22:05

Are you a member of a union? They would be able to help unravel the complexities of this.

Cindy34 · 24/07/2013 22:05

If it says you get x amount for working a 40 week year and you have worked the required 40 weeks, then you should get the agreed amount.

What happened last August, were you paid then? Maybe what was happening was that the payment was being split over 12 months rather than being made when the work was actually done. Think that is what happens in state schools, salary being split over 12 months.

If you feel you are owed money I would write to whomever it is who deals with the school finance and state clearly what you feel is owed and why. Then if they can not satisfy you that the money is not owed, yet they refuse to pay it, then consider taking it via small claims court.

ChazDingle · 24/07/2013 22:06

Ignoring the fact its a school, if i was to leave my job i am entitled to pro rata holidays till when i leave. so we get 29 days per years so if i left at end of July i would be entitled to 7/12 of 29 days and if i hadn't taken that many i would get paid and if i had taken more they would be deducted out of my final salary.

MeantToStopAtTwo · 24/07/2013 22:07

There are 12 equal payments over the year.

I was required to give a term's written notice although actually just gave half a term's written notice.

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FannyMcNally · 24/07/2013 22:09

At the moment how do you know you won't receive a payment in August?

HollyBerryBush · 24/07/2013 22:12

Let me try another way. Using round figures for ease. For arguements sakes (and ease of my maths) your annual salary is 10K. You work 40 weeks so your actual salary is 10K divided by 52 multiplied by 40 plus 4 weeks holiday pay (using our salary structure).

So because you havent worked the whole year your holiday entitlement will also be less. But for illustrative purposes because I really havent the mental arithmetic to divide that down we'll say 4 weeks anyway.

So you need to work out whether you have been paid more or less than £8461.53 (10K divided by 52 multiplied by 44)..

You get paid pro rata. It is a part time job.

MeantToStopAtTwo · 24/07/2013 22:14

Fanny, I've received a letter saying I shall receive my P60 at the end of July.

HollyBerry I have worked the whole year and this is classed as a full-time job.

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karatekimmi · 24/07/2013 22:16

I have handed my notice in but my "last" day is the 31stvof August. If I had handed my notice in and had 22nd July then I would expect to be paid over summer iyswim.

What day did you put down as your leaving day?

MeantToStopAtTwo · 24/07/2013 22:17

Didn't put anything K. Just gave notice in an informal discussion.

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EllenJanesthickerknickers · 24/07/2013 22:18

Hmm, I have just left a job at a state school. My pay was pro rata and I was paid for 39 weeks a year divided into 12 equal monthly payments. My last pay will be on 31st August as I've already done the 39 weeks.