to keep DD off school because she's knackered and it's going to be hot?

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She's in reception and exhausted. They are also meant to be going for a walk and a picnic, forecast is for 31degs!!
Also think she could do with a bit of mummy time, last chance tomorrow when dd2 is at preschool!
I would present it as 'I'm not letting you go' not 'it's a treat'. and she may really want to go on the picnic anyway!

Buildings have shutters, marble floors, thicker walls, schools start early etc in Mediterranean countries. It's easier to cool down as being inside usually means it's cooler.

In Mediterranean countries, maybe, because these countries tend to be warmer all year round. Where I worked, the winters were bloody freezing, so there were no shutters or marble floors. And although the school day did start earlier than ours, it also finished later!

Greek winters are cold same as UK generally. They use rugs in the winters.

stunt ?? And your answer to valium who HAD sent her DC to school and the result could have been fatal? I you had read my earlier post I said i was fully in agreement about the mummy time. She also had a very good reason for wanting to do it. Humans are not effing robots.

Oh yes, reception aged lessons are equal to army training. Best only send them to school over winter, just to be safe. Oh but then the snow will probably be insurmountable for them too won't it? After all, we're just not prepared for the cold and like those cold countries either are we...

ppeatfruit - I cannot believe that you are actually comparing men being forced to march for miles wearing full uniform and carrying however many lbs of kit with a school child taking a short walk to a picnic.

No of course not Ali (where've you been BTW?) but read valium's posts about the effect of the sun on her DC. He was blue lighted to hospital with sun stroke (which stunt is ignoring).

So, ppeatfruit, do you think all children should have been kept off school for the last couple of weeks?

Was he blue lighted to hospital, valium?

ppeatfruit, valium's son had a double lesson of PE. The OP's child was going for a picnic. There's a bit of a difference.

I sometimes kept my children home from school at this age if they were tired or even it it was a nice day and there was somerthing better we could do. School isn't compulsary until age six where we live.

My older girls are now 9 and 7 and are very hard working, have very good attendance record, exellent grades and the odd day at home aged four hasn't had any detrimental effect at all.

That's because one child being ill does not mean every child should stay off forever. An isolated incident like Valium's needs to be dealt with on a case by case basis. If she chooses to believe her children's school can not adequately care for her children yet still chooses to send them there, and so chooses to remove her children during warm weather then that's her call.

He was blue lighted to hospital with sun stroke
You're just making shit up now, Valium did not mention any of that

If your child is ill from the heat, keep 'em off school. If your child is just grumpy from the heat, that isn't reason enough to stay off school.

Exactly kelda Yes Imperial Actually I'm a hippy at heart and I think school shouldn't be compulsory at all except for the DCs who NEED it. So effing flame me I'm off .

Russians said that her dc was bluelighted to hospital if I recall correctly. Not sure about Valium's DS. I can well believe that this might happen. Heatstroke is no joke. However, it shouldn't usually happen in these temperatures if people are taking sensible precautions - different, of course, for people with underlying health issues who may be at greater than usual risk.

What do you mean, the kids who need it, ffs?

clare So what if your child is tired and a bit thirsty? They'll learn to drink maybe and possibly not learn that much. But they won't die.

My child could easily have died last week. That's one of the reasons why she was blue lighted to hospital. She whacked her head really hard when she collapsed. It could easily have ended up very differently.

But you clearly think she is lily livered. I think you lack both intelligence and imagination.

jinsie A hat won't protect you from heatstroke. You can get heatstroke indoors.

I must remember to tell my ds he is very 'unusual'

valium He's not unusual. I know several people who have collapsed in the heat of the last couple of weeks. Not all of them family members either!. This thread is just being dominated by two or three examples of exactly the sort of teacher that let my child end up in hospital. There's always one, in every school. They are usually the ones who know better than the medical profession about other things too :(

I know that a hat alone won't prevent heatstroke so right back at you. If you read my post properly, I said that my mother was told (by doctors in a hot country!) that I had suffered from heatstroke because I had not been properly protected from the heat. Wearing a hat was one of many precautions that they recommended, but by no means not the only one. Staying properly hydrated was another.

My mother has never quite forgiven herself for what happened to me back then, as it was made clear to her that it had been entirely preventable. I have therefore ensured that my own dd knows how to look after herself in hot weather. I don't think stopping all normal activities is the answer for a normally healthy child.

If your child is ill from the heat, keep 'em off school. If your child is just grumpy from the heat, that isn't reason enough to stay off school.

I agree. Everyone makes a bad judgement call at times, but it seems at every school there are parents who repeatedly keep their kids off when there is no particular reason for the absence.

And what, pray tell, would your primary school aged child do if they told a TA in a baking hot classroom that they were feeling really funny and the TA told them to go back to their desk and get back to work?

And FYI it is extremely common for small kids (and adults) to get heatstroke in these sorts of temperatures if (a) they are not used to them (as nobody under the age of 7 could possibly be) or (b) they are the sort of person who doesn't do well in heat - typically perm any of extremely fair skinned, skinny, red haired, other medical issues (eg asthma, low blood pressure, anaemia, dyspraxia (many dyspraxics are affected strongly by heat and cold)). I received all this information last week from the hospital my DD2 was at, so it's up to date and fully remembered.

Am I one of those teachers who would put your child in hospital? If so, I find that incredibly insulting.

I was talking about parents who keep their children off school for "mummy time" when the child is well able and willing to go to school. I said that had a huge impact on their education, if they thought school was voluntary.

But it's not entirely preventable if you wear a hat, drink and wear cream.

Imperial you are consistently ignoring all the posters pointing out that there are perfectly valid reasons for the OP to keep her child off school in the circumstances she explained. You have consistently ignored both Valium and myself who have had DCs of different ages seriously affected by the heat while in school and almost certainly as a result of teacher neglect. The sort of blanking 'I know best' attitude is exactly the one which landed my DD2 in hospital. So, yes. And I don't care if you find that insulting. I find it appalling that someone who purports to be a teacher is so lacking in common sense, intelligence and empathy, to be honest.

I'm not saying "I know best." If my child was ill, I'd keep him/her off school. If I just fancied some time with them, I wouldn't, because I don't think it's in anyone's long term interest.

I am sorry you and Valium have children who have suffered so much in the heat and I hope they recover soon. I had already said that a double lesson of PE in this heat wasn't what the OP was talking about.

I wouldn't take children to anywhere except a shaded area in this heat. It's just asking for trouble. I appreciate that it's hard to take care of small children when it's hot and that schools have to be prepared for that.

I'm not lacking in empathy and am not responsible for the bad decisions made by your children's teachers. Please don't confuse me with them.

I've said consistently that this wasn't the point of the OP - the OP was that she wanted to keep her child off school for "mummy time."

She doesn't have valid reasons! She wants to keep her off for 'mummy time'. The weather is a convenient excuse.

"Am I being unreasonable to keep my daughter off school because she's knackered and it's going to be hot " was her question. Yes, is the answer to that question, YABU.