To think that this is just a silly reaction on behalf of gay people?

[Jesssime]

Don't misunderstand me, I support gay people having full access to same rights as opposite sex people. Always have done. As somebody has somebody close to me who is gay, I like to keep abreast of gay news.

But I don't know, isn't the following just a bit over the top:

I mean, Yes, I'm totally fine with same sex marriage, but I'm not going to take to the streets and party over it. I'm guessing that it's not that big a deal to the majority of us-this doesn't mean that anybody's against it at all, but that it really IS no big deal. So why are they expecting the news channels to give it much coverage?

www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/07/19/whitehall-questions-why-equal-marriage-was-largely-ignored-by-bbc-channel-4-and-other-media/

Unoppressed? What makes you think gay people have the monopoly on oppression?

Actually, if I may do a little sidestepping here, same sex marriage is a bit of an own goal from a strategical viewpoint as there's a risk that society will think, 'Well they've got equal marriage now, what are they whingeing about'?

Which is probably what I'm guilty of doing here to a certain extent.

I'm not saying this is right at all but how people are.

Yabu and either obtuse or plain stupid.

teacherlikesapples

It's actually a good thing that people are not celebrating: they've been told that same sex marriage is no big deal either way and to shut up about any reservations they may have had. That it won't affect them. Well, they listened and decided that that it didn't affect them and that they were being assholes for objecting to it.

What do you expect the majority of people (who are straight, remember) to celebrate for? Same sex marriage is nothing for them to care about either way, remember?

So your saying that we can only celebrate things that directly affect us?

I do care about same sex marriage even though i'm not gay.

I do care about racial discrimination even though i'm not black.

I do care about lots of things and not just things that i have a personal interest in.

I may not be going out and having a party over gay marriage but inside i'm proud that here in Britain we are at least trying to be tolerant of differences.
We might not always get it right but at least we can talk about it openly without fear of imprisonment.

I think we should be celebrating that we've got this one right.

yeh I campaigned for years against Apartheid despite not being a black South African ...sill me

reelingintheyears I agree with you 100%.

I maintained all along that the legalising of gay marriage would make not one iota of difference and that the world would still turn in spite of all the bigoted opponents.

It heartens me that there is no huge media hoopla, now regular gay people can exercise their rights like everyone else and have personal, intimate/fun/outrageous weddings and marry whoever they love.

Jesssime I've just visited the following news headline front pages:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/
www.independent.co.uk/
www.guardian.co.uk/
www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/
www.telegraph.co.uk/

Not a single mention of gay marriage on any of them.

That's it, exactly, TheFallenNinja.

It makes not one iota of difference, that's why it's a good thing that no fuss has been made.

But no iota of difference means just that, doesn't it? People shouldn't -be up in arms or celebratory of its passing (unless gay or have a gay member of family) . Just quietly accepting. Not that big a deal and all that.

I am sure your gay friends thank you from the bottom of their hearts for all your support op

But why should people only celebrate if they are gay or have a gay family member?

I'm not gay nor do I have any gay family members. In the great scheme of things gay marriage doesn't "bother" me. But I do think it is a good thing and I do think it should be reported. The media reported it enough when there was a chance it wouldn't be passed didn't they?

Of course it makes a difference.
It makes a difference to many people.
Many gay people still have intolerant family members and don't tell vast swathes of their relatives.
Quietly accepting is ok but it should still be big news, it is certainly a huge step in history.
Just like when women were first allowed into University or allowed the vote or allowed to have rights to their own property.

It is important, and it is telling the whole world that gay people are just as important as anyone else.

I didn't say they had a monopoly. But since you have identified as being straight that means you the unoppressed group to those in the LGBT*+ group. Just like Asian men can still be oppressed while being men, their being male doesn't take away from the oppression they face from being Asian but does make them immune to the oppression Asian women face as they are immune to those specific issues. Just like White women can still be oppressed but their Whiteness gives certain immunities that other women do not have (and gives benefits in some areas over some men, just not White ones). It's the intersections of oppression, one group has power others.

yes but you are not allowed to be pleased about things unless it directly effects you see Alisvolatpropiis so for me, as a white, middle class, single parent female I am not allowed to be happy for gay people I am though - shoot me

OP you haven't answered any ones points really - I am also wondering if it's deliberate or if you don't understand their questions.

*power and immunities that others do not have.

gordy
Innit! We are about people other than ourselves in different situations to us. What monsters we are

OP's logic leaves us not being able to care about an awful lot! Starving children in poor countries? Nope, not allowed. Caring about what's going on in Egypt and Syria? Nope not allowed. Homeless people? Nope not allowed either.

If we all had the same attitude as the OP an awful lot of people wouldn't get the help, or in this instance, equality they deserve.

Ffs. It's the epitome of the "I'm alright jack" attitude.

gordylovesheep my gay friends don't give a toss about marriage, they don't see it as a panacea that will solve the issues facing gay people.

Quite the reverse: they realise once that it is passed, the public perception will be that gay people are no longer prejudiced against because, after all, a historic, watershed event has taken place. Which is a lie.

Frankly, it would be better to celebrate the day when nobody is beaten up for being gay, but I guess that's not such a 'sexy' (as in popular) issue.

People are fickle, they've done their bit for gay rights so it's onto the next thing.

*care not are

op

It is a watershed moment

I don't think anybody with half a brain thinks this solves all the prejudices gay people face. But it is a step in the right direction. Gay people don't have to want to rush out and get married now, they just have the same option to do so as heterosexual couples.

A small moment, surely? Not a watershed one.

All that's happened is that people who were regarded as married anyway by those around them (remember civil partnerships give same rights) are now formally known as married instead of informally known as married.

Hardly a watershed.

What will be a watershed moment is when nobody is beaten up or abused just because they're gay.

But this is just not a 'sexy' issue, is it? Not like bloomin' marriage.

People are fickle, they've done their bit for gay rights so it's onto the next thing.

Well, you're rude.