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To think that this is just a silly reaction on behalf of gay people?

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Jesssime · 20/07/2013 08:05

Don't misunderstand me, I support gay people having full access to same rights as opposite sex people. Always have done. As somebody has somebody close to me who is gay, I like to keep abreast of gay news.

But I don't know, isn't the following just a bit over the top:

I mean, Yes, I'm totally fine with same sex marriage, but I'm not going to take to the streets and party over it. I'm guessing that it's not that big a deal to the majority of us-this doesn't mean that anybody's against it at all, but that it really IS no big deal. So why are they expecting the news channels to give it much coverage?

www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/07/19/whitehall-questions-why-equal-marriage-was-largely-ignored-by-bbc-channel-4-and-other-media/

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Jesssime · 20/07/2013 08:36

TheOrchardKeeper. Eh? Don't know where you got that from.

OK, try it this way: a small minority are positively happy about this, as in cock-a-hoop with joy.

a small minority are positively unhappy with this, as in really unhappy.

The majority are very mildly happy/ very mildly unhappy/indifferent.

As in, 'live and let live', doesn't affect me: move on.

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VeryDullNameChange · 20/07/2013 08:36

Royal Assents very rarely get coverage though, because they're so dull and inevitable. I'm sure there'll be shedloads of lovely coverage for the first gay couple to tie the knot - I hope they like cameras.

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IThinkOfHappyWhenIThinkOfYou · 20/07/2013 08:37

"the non bigotted amongst us see it as no big deal"

Who are you speaking for? It's a fucking huge deal. Does that make me a bigot?

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pictish · 20/07/2013 08:37

No...I don't think the abuse will stop.
Ir is marked progression though. And newsworthy.

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pictish · 20/07/2013 08:39

I think it's a big deal.

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TheOrchardKeeper · 20/07/2013 08:39

The non-bigotted amongst us see it as no big deal, move on nothing to see here - read a bit funny. Plenty of non-bigoted people see it as a big deal.

The 'minority' that are unhappy with it will now have to accept it anyway. That's pretty big.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 20/07/2013 08:39

Yabu.

That is all.

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Jesssime · 20/07/2013 08:40

IThinkOfHappyWhenIThinkOfYou, perhaps my post at 8:36 makes it clearer.

I'm sorry, but it IS no big deal for me either way. It's no big deal for many of us.

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TheOrchardKeeper · 20/07/2013 08:41

If it's no big deal for you then surely you shouldn't be fussed about them wanting more coverage and carrying on with the movement?

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GettingVerySleepy · 20/07/2013 08:42

Yes, who are you speaking for? So because you have a few gay friends you think you can speak for all gay people and your conclusion is that anyone who thinks its a big deal is a bigot? That is shockingly ignorant.

Let me inform you that I, the daughter of a gay parent, think its great my dad can now get married and is a sign of real progress. My family broke down in tears of joy over this. I guess we are all bigots Hmm.

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kim147 · 20/07/2013 08:43

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Jesssime · 20/07/2013 08:44

GettingVerySleepy

Well you're obviously part of the minority for whom this is a big deal then, aren't you?

Once again, for the sake of clarity, I ask you to read my post as of 8:36.

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TheOrchardKeeper · 20/07/2013 08:46

^ DP's brother has had kids (adoptive) with his partner and they live together but didn't want a CP as they're both christian and wanted to get married. They weren't sure if they'd ever be able to. They both cried too and we've actually had them round to celebrate and start planning! So it is a big thing for many.

Also, the title of the thread is a tad offensive as it's such an important issue for so many people and 'silly' just isn't appropriate wording really, unless you're trying to offend.

I understand you don't have an issue with it all but many do, so why begrudge them the coverage or decide they're silly?

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GettingVerySleepy · 20/07/2013 08:47

Okay so this thread has changed your mind? Because right there in your thread title you call this a "silly reaction" and your OP takes a very different tack from your post at 8:36. And yes I am we'll aware that my family is a minority thank you so much for taking the opportunity to remind me though!

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GettingVerySleepy · 20/07/2013 08:48

Congrats to your DP's brother and fiancé , TheOrchardKeeper Smile!!!!!

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TheOrchardKeeper · 20/07/2013 08:49

I don't think the minority find it a big deal actually. This affects all gay people, whether they get married or not, as it's progression. There are more straight people in this country, yes but I wouldn't call gay people and their families/loved ones/friends a 'minority'. This is a big deal for a lot of people. Just not you, which is fine.

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IThinkOfHappyWhenIThinkOfYou · 20/07/2013 08:49

No, doesn't make it clearer. OK so I'm not straight so maybe I come at things from a different angle from you but the fundamental fact is you can't have equality until you have equality for everyone. This effects everyone, even those of us who can't see past our own privilege. You thinking it's irrelevant because you are 'fine' with it just shows how little you understand about the struggle of marginalised groups to achieve equality. Are you also 'totally fine' with women having the vote, or Irish Catholics. Are you 'fine' with black Americans having the same civil rights as white Americans? No, it doesn't stop all the bigotry, otherwise Trayvon Martin would still be alive but nor is it just a piece of paper or a rubber stamp. It's bloody important and shouldn't be dismissed by people who think they are so damn cool and accepting.

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Jesssime · 20/07/2013 08:49

GettingVerySleepy.

You're really being oversensitive now.

I meant no slight against your family.

But it is fair too say that the vast majority of people in this country are not bothered about gay people getting married. That's a good thing, believe it or not. They're neutral or very mildly happy about it.

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TheOrchardKeeper · 20/07/2013 08:50

Thank you GVS Smile

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GettingVerySleepy · 20/07/2013 08:50

Damn, right on, IThink, excellent post!

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kim147 · 20/07/2013 08:52

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IThinkOfHappyWhenIThinkOfYou · 20/07/2013 08:52

People not really caring about civil rights and equality actually isn't a good thing. Apathy is the glove into which evil slips it's hand et etc etc.

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Lj8893 · 20/07/2013 08:54

I don't think it is a minority that think this is a big deal either, assuming by minority you mean homosexuals who want to get married?

There are many many gay people who have no plans to get married now or in the future who will still see this as a big deal, as its a huge step for equality for the gay community.

There are many straight people, with or without gay friends and relatives, who will see this as a big deal, for the same reasons.

Equality should be a big deal for us all.

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DamnDeDoubtance · 20/07/2013 08:54

This is huge news with almost zero coverage, people are right to question it.

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TheOrchardKeeper · 20/07/2013 08:55

I actually wondered if it was a purposeful blackout (and I am not^ the type to believe in conspiracies. EVER). It would actually be fairly easy seeing most mainstream media is controlled by only a few people.

But that's another thread Grin

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