To think you can't judge a child by their name??

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Would you judge a child by their first name?

Katie Hopkins on this morning was saying how she judged the children her children play with by their names.

There's a YouTube video but can't link it

I would judge any parent who gave a child a name that would lead to bullying/cruelty from others.
But names are so very personal...I really dislike some perfectly nice normal names just because they have connotations for me (eg: Alison, Charlotte)
I do have an issue with names spelt in a silly way.
Their kids will be spelling that out forever more....
"No, it's loulouemalinealishamai"

My DS3 is going to secondary in September and the only other DC who's going with him from his school is called Jordan. He has a sister called Sydney and a brother called Tyler-John. Is his mum 'chavvy?' Horrible word, she's a working class mum. Am I sad that DS3 has only one friend going with him? Yes, a few more would have been nice, but I could have kissed Jordan's mum when she chose the same school as my DS. Jordan is a lovely boy, really talented at football, very different from my quirky DS3 (who's a bit athletically challenged) but they will have each other when they start school and I am delighted that DS3 won't start alone.

Fucking snob, that Katie Hopkins!

sherbetpips Fri 05-Jul-13 13:41:28
"Have to admit I am a bit judgy - I fint it odd, especially white families who give there kids trendy ethnic names. Always a surprise when you have them round for tea and they are a little white blonde haired boy!"

Quite agree. All these Joshuas, Rebeccas, Sarahs and Josephs, when there clearly isn't a trace of Jewish ancestry.

Little blond children should be called Aethelfrith and Frideswide. Or, if very blond, Canute.

Thanks toby

I was saying as much to little Hereward and Aelfgifu only the other day, cory.

Not sure of the source but concerning that vile troll I think this article is a must-read:

m.zimbio.com/Katie+Hopkins/articles/hYj4Myblh3Z/Fame+Desperate+Katie+Hopkins+Successfully

cavernous, belching cunt

I know, perfect eh, SP!?

It sums her up quite nicely dontmeanto

I will judge the parent if the name is cruel - for instance when the news story about little Adolf Hitler and his sister JoyceLynn Aryan Nation came out. I judged that the parents were not-very-nice neo-nazis and the kids were in trouble saddled with parents like that. Turns out I was right - the father is a violent neo-nazi and the kids were taken into care and will never be going home.

However I do NOT class names like Chelsea, Cheryl or Sharli to be cruel. They don't have any nasty connotations, there's nothing wrong at all with them as a name. I would never judge a child or parent based on that.

My eldest has a very unusual name and i think it would be classed along with Sharli and Kaidon by the KH's of the world. Not that I'll ever know, no one on ANY of the multitude of name threads on this site has ever mentionned it, ever. But I don't give a damn. I love her name, it grew on me, and it suits her perfectly

My middle one has a name which is a top-50 (or maybe top 20 or 10, not sure) name in other countries but unusual here. Think like 'Jesus' - everyone knows it's a name, and a popular one too, in some countries, but there aren't many born-in-Britain Jesus's.

If asked about either of their names, I just smile and say yes, how my daughter's names are lovely and suit them, and your kids names are also lovely by the way...stops the conversation every time.

There are names that I really don't like.

A lot of them are the new modern names such as Jayden, Tejay, Ajay etc BUT although they are names that I wouldn't pick I just think names evolve and change, go in and out of fashion and so on.

A lot of the names from the 50's and 60's (Sharon, Tracey Linda, Wayne etc) would have seemed bizarre to the previous generation.

In a generation there will be a load of new names coming out and the Chardonay's, Levi's, Kyle's will be despairing at the new fangled names saying 'wff?'

What about spelling variations? I have a DD with a long, foreign name which is a variation on an English name, shortened to an uncommon but heard of English name, spelled differently because it comes from the long foreign name. I can imagine Katie Hopkins thinking I can't spell. That said, I have a double barreled first name, so does that make my child acceptable as a playmate even if her first name is spelled funny?

Just seen Katie Hopkins Twitter page

Oh my God - it's absolutely vile. Cruel, nasty jokes at childrens expense, benfits bashing, it goes on and on and on

Disgusting woman

I refuse to use the name my family call me because it stirs up images of a prostitute (which I realise is completely illogical and that someone who has the same name that my family use for me isn't automatically a prostitute)

I think if we're honest we all automatically start making a "profile" in our head of someone we haven't met based on a couple of basic bits of information such as name...but I'd like to think that most of us are balanced enough to realise that the image we imagine based on one or two simple facts about a person is likely to be far removed to who that person actually is once we get to know them.

KH isn't very intelligent at all is she?

Either that or she's a very vile nasty piece of work?

I was on the bus earlier (Katie would never go on a bus I'm sure) and there was a family wearing shiny tracksuits, all with accents that make me wince, and because of this thread I registered that their children's names would have made them acceptable for playdates at KP's! David, Emma and Christopher. I was surprised. I think. Then I also noticed that despite having a rotten accent a skin head, the dad was really pulling his weight with the kids. Which is more than my suited, booted, educated, cologne-scented, floppy-haired, tattoo-free, Tag heuer wearing Xh ever did.

I know a few teachers who dread kids with certain names.

Didn't the Royal Family have reservations about Autumn though? (The girl and her background rather than the name particularly?)

Although to be fair, they probably didn't and what I am actually remembering is some sneery Daily Mail hatchet job

Peter isn't titled though, so his wife will never have a title. What's wrong with her background? She's Canadian from same sort of family as Kate, but with less money than Kate's family I think.

Have just googled and apparently the issues were (apart from her being a commoner like KM):

1. She was Catholic. Which would have meant Peter would have lost his place in the line of succession had she not converted to CoE (which she did)

2. They did a naff photoshoot with Hello (for cash) which didn't go down too well apparently.

This got my goat and I'd like to ask Katie Hopkins a few questions. I think someone so self-promoting will read everything about themselves that they can find, so on the off-chance you are reading this thread, Katie, here are my questions:

1. Have you thought about the pain that working class mothers may go through when watching their children being excluded from friendships? Further to that, have you considered what it may be like for a six year old to realise he is not 'as good' as your daughter? What about when he goes home feeling sick with hurt because he was one of the few not invited to the birthday party? What do you feel when you think about that?
2. Do you think human decency can thrive when powerful people (with money) deliberately marginalise children who are already on the back foot?
3. Do you think that you're responsible for your daughter's moral development, as well as seeing that she 'succeeds' in other ways? Do you wish your children to grow up thinking that no, all children are not created equal? Further to that, could you briefly summarise the kind of thinking that leads to genocide and see if there are any similarities?
4. Have you considered that snobs are not always very popular these days, especially with teachers? In addition, have you considered that advertising your boorish unattractiveness may jeopardise India's chances of playdates with the children of families that disagree with you? Perhaps there are mothers out there today deciding that they don't want those opinions rubbing off on their daughters!
5. Have you thought about the possibility that sensitively raised children will not necessarily follow others like sheep? And is it not your job to ensure India has done her homework to the best of her ability?
6. Are you aware that the true mark of good breeding is to make everyone feel comfortable, regardless of position? And the true mark of a civilised society is one in which marginalised people are facilitated to participate on an equal footing with others?
7. How does appearing on morning TV and behaving so coarsely compare with a mother calling 'Tyler' across the park?

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1. consider that the people who think you're not good enough to be acquainted with their children might be right three married men, seriously? THREE

yOU are so right about 7

10. How much do you get paid for making up controversial opinions and then spouting them on TV?

11. Is it enough to fill the big, gaping hole in your soul where your dignity must once have been?