To think you can't judge a child by their name??

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Would you judge a child by their first name?

Katie Hopkins on this morning was saying how she judged the children her children play with by their names.

There's a YouTube video but can't link it

Haven't read the whole thread yet, but re TheSecondComing comment on P2 - I get your point but in fact I do know a posh Kyle...

I also know many middle class Joshuas and am surprised by how many teachers assume all Joshuas are of a 'type'

I think the whole thing is ridiculous. Yes, obviously people will always disagree on names, but to judge a child because of their name is cruel!

Although I'm about to give my kid an Irish name and am wearily prepared for the comments given how many people think Irish names 'chavvy' (ie how many ignorant twats there are)

SonorousBip Tintin is a nickname in France. Something I learned from the TV series Spiral. Googling seems to suggest it is a diminuative of Augustin.

Monnie My son has an Irish name.

I dont care if people want to judge my 3 year because of his name. Go ahead and judge me while you are at it. Its a name, that is it.

I dont see why people care so much about what other people call their children.

My name is judged as chavvy yet its a standard name that was popular when I was born. There's many famous and successful people with the same name. Its funny because my surname turns up on the 'what surname would you love to have' threads so I don't know if that counters my 'chavvy' first name.

Name your child Sponge for all I care

Ok my DS2 is named Josh not Joshua and is starting school in August Im getting a bit worried about the comments that teachers assume all Joshuas are a type - I have actually heard this before but didn`t pay much attention - should I be worried?

I think it is all total rubbish. I couldn't care less about class or names of other people's children.

Since when were Irish names "chavy"? My dad is a Ciaran and I don't think you could possibly call a 95 year old man a chav.

Name your child Sponge for all I care

Only to the point of thinking how that name might affect the kid when he/she is older. I was bullied because my surname, when you swap a letter to another one, turns into dead in my mother tongue.

so what. so what if my name marks me out as working class. what if, even on top of seeming working class, i god help me actually am working class

if you are the kind of twat who gets off on pathologising the sheer fact of the existence of working class people, might i suggest, that on such a hot day you might find it refreshing to soak your head in a bucket of cool water for, oh, 3 hours or so.immerse up to the shoulders, mind, for best results

My DD has one of the names they mentioned as being 'posh'. She has friends of the Tyler/Jordan type of name. I can't say the names crossed my mind for any reason other than that I don't really like them and therefore wouldn't choose them for my own children. But I couldn't care less if they're 'common' or even if they don't do their homework

The part that really made me laugh was this:

KH: "I hate 'place' names for children"
Phillip: "Your daughter is called 'India'"
KH: "..."

Surely if you were judging anyone, you would be judging the parent.
I have at a name called across a playground, but I've never judged the kid for it.
I went to boarding school and a Redbridge university. You would be surprised how many of those names are more common (ie in more general use) now. It also meant that Portia and Hero were definintely not names on my list for both my daughters. (Although Hero was vetoed for another reason as well)
My first name is double barrelled and I have had people do a double take when they have called my name and I've replied.
I was on a bus once, and over heard a conversation about my name. (I've only met one other woman with my first name so was a little surprised that it was popular enough to come up in conversation) Apparently it was to Chavy and popular and Amy-Grace (nothing like my name), would be more classical.
Oh, and the only Tarquin's and Peregrins I have met outside of school, would not be considered posh enough for Katie!

Toby its not a location! Then when Holly told her to stop her face dropped.

My thoughts were does KH, or you lot for that matter, live in an area with no ethnic diversity?

Where I live a lot of names are cultural, or non English origin. We would have a hard time fitting the children in to these categories of middle class or working class by their names!

I would absolutely love it if when people saw her in the street, they would shout 'Tyler' in their best Bianca Jackson impression, or maybe Katie? That could get really annoying haha!

What did KH say that made Holly say stop? Watched it three times now and can't catch it!

She said "she's more of a Black Tower or Blue Nun". WRT wine/Chardonnay.

The vast majority of people - whether they admit to or even realise it or not - make judgements and form opinions based on someone's name alone.

I grew up with a very posh sounding double-barrelled surname and a huge number of people made automatic (and generally erroneous) assumptions about my background, wealth and my attitude - branded as stuck-up or a snob before I'd even spoken to them.

Since I took my husband's name I no longer find I get these responses from people when I first meet them.

I do rather judge parents who name their children ridiculous things, and I admit that I do have preconceived notions about a child's background based on their name. Unfairly or otherwise, I would be a tad surprised if Araminta lived on a council estate in Peckham, or that Chardonnay lived in a mansion off the King's Road, Chelsea.

DD's middle names would be considered firmly upper-middle class, but her first name is widely used (top 50) so doesn't mark her as anywhere in particular.

Yes Hamilton, Tristan is "chavvy" in America! :) Though chavvy is not a word here. All the Tristans I know are nice though. Invluding Trystin, who is a girl.

I pity the poor soul who ends up with kh as a mil.

I'll admit to judging parents on the name they've given but I'd never judge the child or stop them playing with dd.

There are a few names like ethelbert and Norris that I really hope don't make a comeback

I try not too, but sometimes I do

I mean why call your child Hero, Snake, Tee Rex or Labia, Lemon or Storm? just why?

I work in an infant school and to an extent what KH was saying is true - many children with the types of names she mentioned can be more challenging than others, however this is NOT always the case. I think the point is too that whilst many children can be little horrors when small they do not always go on to become horrible adults. It is very interesting to follow the academic "careers" of some of our interestingly named children who go through school and it can be extremely surprising. As adults we know we cannot judge people by their names, as many posters have stated, and it is wrong to suggest to our children that others with particular names would not be appropriate playmates. For the record, we have friends who have 3 boys, their father is Brazilian and they wanted "unusual" names for their boys which would be different from the Brazilian norm - their boys are called Darren, Kevin and Adrian. All 3 boys are tri-lingual, play at least 2 musical instruments and Darren recently achieved 10 grade As at GCSE. So..................

Nothing wrong with Hero as a girl's name; it has a long pedigree going back to Hero and Leander in Greek mythology, and there's a Hero in Much Ado About Nothing .

There are certain names I hear and think 'euurgh'.

Well, one name. Katie Hopkins...

I DO judge names. Everyone does. A name tells you what the parents wanted to call their child- I dread to think of what KH would say about DS' name for example. It says what sort of name I like, but that and only that really!