To think you can't judge a child by their name??

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Would you judge a child by their first name?

Katie Hopkins on this morning was saying how she judged the children her children play with by their names.

There's a YouTube video but can't link it

Her dad's name is Roy.

Now from where I come from some MAY class that as very working class.
I know her background probably wasn't BUT if some people heard the name Roy, they might think she was, well, working class I suppose.

I know a few Katies as I work with young people.
One is lovely and doing extremely well. Off to private school in September.

Another comes to our residential unit and is on the verge of being taken into care full time due to neglect issues.

Another one is my cousin and she is nice enough. She is in her 40's and has a nice family.

Another one is just Kate and she is a very pretty lesbian who swears alot and make me laugh.

Another one is Katie-Jane and I work with her as well, she has Down Syndrome.
Same name, but all individuals. I prefer any one of them to KH. They are all so much more pleasant

Do I ever mentally raise an eyebrow? Yes, of course.
Do I engineer my kids' friendships based upon children's names? No.

Cory, I'm not disagreeing with you wrt what my parents and grandparents consider jewish names, but the Christian bible is made up of the old testament and the new testament. Obviously I can understand why Jewish people wouldn't use names from the new testament! I don't understand the other way round though! I nearly used the name Saul for my son. I loved it. I used a name which is considered Catholic. But the only adult I know with the name is Jewish.

This makes me so stabby. My child probably has a name that this twat of a woman would hate. However I adopted my child and did not name her. So not only does my child get a shitty start in life either her or me will be judged by short sighted cretins that should really know better. Brilliant

My DS has a fairly straight forward name but I'd never judge anyone for what they decided to call their child - and I'd certainly never judge the child.

To be honest I couldn't care less if people ban their child from playing with mine because of his name. I wouldn't want him mixing with such a narrow minded family. My fear would be that it'd change him into someone who made a judgement based on something other than how he was treated by his new friend. He's been encouraged to make friends based on how he feels about a person, not what they look like, speak like, dress or how much money their family appears to have.

I have to say Katie Hopkins is quite entertaining. She's got millions of us talking about her - I bet This Morning is delighted.

This objectionable, wicked step mother persona is her MO. She can't be that narrow minded in real life.

There is a small & uncomfortable element of truth in what she says. MN afterall, is full of baby name threads where names are declared 'chavvy', and I have two lovely teacher friends who will 'jokingly' say what names they don't want to see on their registers.

This Morning get her on because she plays up to this part so perfectly and I suspect she cares not a hoot about the reaction to her outrageous comments.

But steering her kids away from others because she dislikes their names? I just don't believe it.

there is a difference between liking or disliking a name and purely judging a person on what name they were given at birth or adoption.

What KH says she does is put everyone into her class slots, as she wants her dc to only play and interact with children of the same class as themselves. This has little to do with names other than it is her prefered way of deciding whether some child is from a particular class.

What I would really like to ask KH is what class are her dc, how do they fit in with a publicly fornicating adulterous as a mother? Is it the underclass or the publicly humiliating class

All I'm saying is that her name, Katie, reminds me of the other well known Katie and that's as chavvy and vulgat as it gets.

Surely she should be Catherine. Or Kate, at worst.

Just saying.

I have taught a Prospero, Tempest and Ariel, all from the same family, who were all vile. Names are meaningless, the nicest, most intelligent pupil I ever taught, who is now a high flying barrister, was called Brad!

I recently came across a child named Peachez. Anyone who says they wouldn't judge a family who would name a child Peachez, is lying.

Katie Hopkins is a professional troll. The media continue to trundle her out because she continues to provoke a reaction. That said, she does have a point. People should not give their kids fucking stupid names.

Peachez.

Professional troll is a perfect description.

Not every name is a give away about a child's parentage, but many names have a high correlation with certain sorts of parentage.

I'd eye roll at a Peachez. And I'd make assumptions about the parents. Wrong of me but I would . For a start, I would imagine them to be young.

I wouldn't not let my DS play with a Peachez though or have any issue with the family other than thinking they had bad name choices. But they might well think the same about me.

Agree, janowicz. Naming a child after, say, an alcoholic beverage, says a great deal about your values, to say nothing of your common sense. It just does.

My surname is an alcoholic beverage

I think the thing with a child named Peachez is that it shows the family lack common sense. I would probably have to 'suss them out' a fair bit before I would let my DC play there. More so than if they had a child named James or Charlotte.

My adopted daughter has what is often described on mn as a 'chavvy' name. How dare those of you who admit to judging dare to judge her? She's had a worse start in life than most of you could imagine and she's doing brilliantly despite it. The last thing she needs is more grief in her life.

Just don't.

One of my sons has a chavvy name. I didn't realise it was chavvy until I came on mumsnet. Am I bovvered?

I have a child called Charlotte.

I don't think I fit into your nice little box though.

My sons middle name if James his first would probably mean I would need 'sussing out'

And her sister has the ultimate 'Chav'
Name

She is shallow and callous.

Well said Happyon.

I don't think it's so much about a nice little box, loads of kids at my DC's school have names I don't like at all. My point is that if one of my DC wanted to go and play at little Teqquyla's house, I would checking out little Teqquyla's family more thoroughly than little Sarah's family. Right-on though we all are, I think most of us would, most of us just wouldn't admit it.

doesn't stella McCartney have a bailey and a miller? sounds like a drinks order. "is that everything?"

what's KH's sister's name?