AIBU to start a thread discussing the word Cunt?

[FeegleFion]

I know before I start, that there will be a lot of you who really disagree with using the word Cunt.

I want to start a discussion about it, as I personally, feel that using the word in a positive manner is to be encouraged.

I am from Glasgow and I use/ have always used the word as a term of affection "You're a good wee cunt you".

I wanted to start this thread because I have just come across the following on a Women's Rights forum and I really hope to change negative opinion and association:

CUNT

Considered to be the most vile, obscene and vulgar 'swear word' in the English language, the word 'Cunt' in the vernacular means vagina.
As if that is not indication enough why it is considered so vile in the vagina-hating Patriarchy, the word itself was originally a term of respect and reverence for a powerful, spiritually enlightened woman.

'Cunt' derives from 'Kunda' or 'Cunti', the Oriental Great Goddess.
She was the Great Yoni of the Universe, where all life came from and to where all life returned for renewal.

From this same word came the words country, kin and kind.

So, for your delectation, rumination and reasoned discussion, I give you, the word Cunt discuss.

I believe there are never any stupid questions. I obviously don't object to the word, so can't answer your question. Hopefully, one of the posters who do object to it, will be kind enough to answer your question.

Rather disingenous of you there, Feegle, but I'll try to answer: men have never historically been oppressed by being called a dick or a knob or a shaft or a scrotum or the myriad other variances of a penis.

Excellent post Shelob

Business please explain what part of that was disingenuous?

Perhaps Sheshelob? Although I do enjoy swearing as a pastime and there is nothing better than lobbing a quick 'fuck' at someone down here in the south as the way they say it is just far too polite

I understand where you are coming from but actually I think it boils down to how happy you are to use your own genitalia as a swear word. I'm not that comfortable with it personally.

Cock or dick or prick are words used liberally by both men and women and I never hear a man complaining about the fact that his genitals have become a swear word. It just doesn't bother men at all, which is why perhaps those swear words don't have the same impact as 'cunt'.

A woman's genitalia, as Feegle pointed out, was regarded as sacred. Ours is an open passage into our bodies and it's where new life is both created and born. To suddenly use a descriptive word for vagina as a swear word is to debase it, snatch away its mysticism and reduce it to a mere insult.

Unlike the men, I am bothered about my genitals being used as an insult. There are far too many gender-based insults targeted at women and this is just one of many.

Feegle, it's lovely of you to respect my stance but all this politeness is putting me on edge somewhat. I'm more used to being sworn at tbh.

You can tell me to fuck off you know?

...pretending you didn't understand why the use of words to describe a penis as insults are not similarly oppressive or degrading as 'cunt'.

Firstly, how do you know what I know or don't know?

Secondly, it was not my place to explain the views of those in opposition to my argument.

How do I know the intricacies and subtleties of that argument? How could I explain it?

I'm not going to tell you to fuck off when it's so fucking (got it in ) refreshing to have a reasoned argument.

I'm always willing to learn and I have learned a lot from this thread, from both sides of the argument.

I am open to having my opinion changed. It's all about growing and nurturing my understanding.

Hip feminists?

Are we, as feminists, supposed to be dour, serious folk who never drawn attention to ourselves?

Sounds awfully patriarchal, that.

Really? I have 'stolen' an idea for a thread?

And I'm not interested in discussing this topic, only looking for attention because that's just me?

Really? How boring.

Business "another attempt by feminists to be able to get even more aggressive and imperious on mumsnet than they already are".

No sweeping statements there then eh? You start by rounding on Feegle for being attention-seeking then end to condemn ALL feminists?

Please do demonstrate where ALL feminists have been aggressive and imperious on this thread and do feel free to include me as I am also a feminist and proud of it thanks very much.

Oh. Am slow.

Business - lay it out for me. Where do you stand on this? And try to say it without being aggressive.

...and while we are on the subject, why this blind insistence that a 'cunt' is a beautiful thing? Really? Aesthetically?

'Cos my vagina ain't that purdy. My tits, on the other hand, are fucking beautiful

That's twice in two days I've been called nauseating for my beliefs, I'm going to get a complex

Disingenuous? Again, how is anything I'm posting here disingenuous? You know nothing about me, so please don't assume to comment on my character.

I think your posts say a lot more about your character than mine.

Erm, business Feegle directed that comment to me actually, but thanks for feeling nauseated on my behalf.

Shut the door on your way out please.

No. That was Passive Aggressive. You are multi-talented.

Joking aside, what's your beef?

Oh, god, I really don't understand now!

We now have somebody simultaneously saying that using "cunt" as an insult is misogynist and shouldn't be done and that feminists are aggressive and attentions seeking.

...I'm about to get on a plane from Prague after having had donor egg IVF. I will rejoin you lovelies in a few hours

Um, I wasn't part of any triumvirate. Except the holy one.

Business - did a feminist steal your sweets?

I AM delightful, though.