AIBU to start a thread discussing the word Cunt?

[FeegleFion]

I know before I start, that there will be a lot of you who really disagree with using the word Cunt.

I want to start a discussion about it, as I personally, feel that using the word in a positive manner is to be encouraged.

I am from Glasgow and I use/ have always used the word as a term of affection "You're a good wee cunt you".

I wanted to start this thread because I have just come across the following on a Women's Rights forum and I really hope to change negative opinion and association:

CUNT

Considered to be the most vile, obscene and vulgar 'swear word' in the English language, the word 'Cunt' in the vernacular means vagina.
As if that is not indication enough why it is considered so vile in the vagina-hating Patriarchy, the word itself was originally a term of respect and reverence for a powerful, spiritually enlightened woman.

'Cunt' derives from 'Kunda' or 'Cunti', the Oriental Great Goddess.
She was the Great Yoni of the Universe, where all life came from and to where all life returned for renewal.

From this same word came the words country, kin and kind.

So, for your delectation, rumination and reasoned discussion, I give you, the word Cunt discuss.

Feegle, I don't think I would care about being called a cunt vs. a bitch. They both mean "this person sure is upset with me and I hope they're not actually going to hit me with that spade."

I'm sure your cunt isn't any more smelly or ugly than any other cunt, and probably less smelly and ugly than many cunts. I just don't think they're sacred yoni flowers or whatever. Men seem to like them, which is good, since I rather like cock. I don't think they smell pretty and they're not really very nice to look at, objectively speaking, but I do like them.

I still call people "cocks" from time-to-time. Somehow, the words don't really seem to be directly connected to how I feel about actual genitals.

Does she? She seems very reasoned to me

The N word is way worse than Cunt! The two don't even compare.

I love Cunt [not like that] But I love the many and varied uses for just one word.

Reasoned? Have you seen her try to reverse park, yet???

Oh Katy...you did not just say that to curlew!

FTR my Cunt smells like honey. so Im told anyway.

I think you have some valid points but you're coming across quite, well, quite flaky.

Anyway, away to bed with me. Or at least, away to do the first night feed.

Goodnight.

I really really hate it when folk think they are being all clever and challengy and coming up with new things, when most people over the age of thirty are well past trying to reclaim the word cunt. I mean, most of us have read Chaucer and just ignore the folk that use it in a body misogynistic way. Even those of us that have been round Germaine Greer and written essays on blardy reclamation, blah blah blah.

But, y'know, if it's all new and exciting to you, do feel free to round the buoy again. I'll look out for the same thread a bit downstream.

And in case anybody cares (I know I don't) I don't use it myself, in any particular sense, neither negatively nor positively. I don't generally bring genitalia to everyday chat unless the subject is, well, genitalia. If you want me to write an essay on the historical use of any given word, sure, whatever. But as a perpetually interesting subject of infinite delight to the young ones? Don't really see it. Use it if you want? But discuss it endlessly?

Always interesting when women try to out misogyn (my new word) men! It's as if they are jumping up and down chirruping "pick me, pick me, pick me!" in front of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.

Anyway. Back to the debate........

Curlew, what I was trying to do was be so preposterously ridiculous that you would REALIZE that I'm just joking around with you.

You asked me earlier where the hysteria is around the word "cunt" and then said something about my using the word "hysteria." I thought perhaps you thought I didn't know the origin of the word and so I said something silly about uteri and you seemed to take me utterly seriously and so I just kept going with it.

One of my strongest memories of Berkeley was a woman who was always very priggish and sanctimonious and seemed to live for the opportunity to tell people off for their "misogyny." She spelled woman as "womyn" in all sincerity. If someone said "Oh, that movie was hysterical!" she'd go into this long lecture and the only acceptable response was a humble, "I'm sorry... yes, of course what I just said was patriarchal and misogynistic... I didn't think before speaking and that was thoughtless of me." She annoyed the shit out of me and I'm still annoyed when I'm reminded of her, which is not your fault.

Thank you for explaining-

Still don't quite get your point - could you explain it again in simpler terms? I am only a woman after all - not suited to subtle arguments.

Oh and congratulations for finding someone outside the right wing press who uses the spelling "womyn" in anger. 40 years at the feminist coal face and I've never come across it. Was she a member of S.C.U.M?

I quite like the word "cunt". It's quite commonly used where I'm from in Scotland in my experience, it's not usually used as an insult... more a piss-take between mates IYSWIM.

There is no argument in my post.

Curlew, I met a lot of people who used "womyn" sincerely. I also remember people saying "politically correct" as a desirable thing. Like, before it was scoffed at and before it became code for "those liberal beliefs that I think are silly but normal people consider basic decency" people in Berkeley actually said things like "It would be more politically correct to not choose sexual partners based on superficial things like race or gender."

Also, people in Berkeley would riot over anything. There were riots over volleyball courts. Dozens of stores were looted and a woman was killed all because the university wanted to build a volleyball court.

So, really, spelling "woman" with a Y in anger wasn't a big deal at all.

Oh and congratulations for finding someone outside the right wing press who uses the spelling "womyn" in anger.

I've never seen it spelled 'womyn' before but it's as fucking irritating as the word 'menz' which I've seen far too often on MN and it makes my eyes bleed a slow death.

Wow, Katy, you most be even older than I am!

prissyenglish you were forced neither to read nor post here.

Bully, for you for reading Chaucer but so what?

I do consider myself "clever and challenging" but not for starting a thread discussing the word Cunt, funnily enough.

There is always debate about using the word on here, usually on threads that have developed into banter or gone off topic, somewhat, so why not start a thread to discuss it?

I believe, in fact, it is you who think you're clever and challenging for coming onto this thread to tell me you "hate it when folk" (like me) dare discuss something you have personally have no further interest in, due to having 'been there, done that'.

Your rant was moot as soon as you offered your opinion on this so 'hated' and 'beneath you' thread.

HTH

Futterby I, personally, do know exactly what you mean

Feeglefion,

Why do you find reading Chaucer remarkable? I'm genuinely confused.

Prissy's def went to Greenham, yo.

When I grow up, I hope I'll be an uber feminist like you, prissy, where debate is no longer needed because I've seen and read it all.

Anyway, "cunt" isn't Welsh. It's Anglo-Saxon in origin, like "fuck".

And it has precisely zip all to do with yoni goddesses whatever they are. Less of the 'gina worship please. It is beyond hilarity, just as men who invented a religion based on worship of the Celestial Cock would be.

I personally do not use the word, though I am not offended by those who do. I don't like a lot of the words, used as swear words, for genitalia. Male or female in origin. But they do not offend me.

Where exactly did I say reading Chaucer (or anything else for that matter) was remarkable Toad ?

Please refrain from saying things like "less of the 'gina" worshipping.

SheShelob I too anticipate the day when I can be cantankerous and dispel any other woman's interest in discussing any issue she finds interesting...oh wait, no, no I don't.

I hope to offer some support and share my experiences in a non- Patriarchal 'type' approach

Honestly, what exactly is this thread doing that is pissing some of you so called feminists off?