This is emotional blackmail. There must be laws against this, surely?

[D0oinMeCleanin]

I can have them grounded arrested or something, no?

I got a lovely glitter painting from my DC. It's of a no smoking sign and a dead person .

It has glitter gel pen writing on it.

It reads "Mammy, please stop smoking. It is bad for you. You will die a lot sooner than you normally would. It will make you really poorly. We don't want you to die [insert face with glitter tears]

People who want you to stop
[insert dd1, dd2 and DH's signature]

Me and dd2 and Daddy would want you to quit. It would make us very happy. We love you lots"

This is worse than those awful bloody adverts with the children.

Please tell me I can punish them? This is just wrong. Glitter should not be used this way.

FryOneFatManic I wasn't responding to your earlier post I was initially commenting on a number of posts, not on yours directly. I actually didn't think your post came across as judgemental at all :)

I think every single person who never does anything to potentially harm themselves should raise their hands.

That will be no one.

We all make choices in life. People smoke, drink to excess, eat too much, weigh too much, take their DCs to school in the car when they can easily walk, take part in sports.

My ds1 has had 3 broken bones and 2 sprains this year. From playing football.

I do not feel compelled to do him a glitter drawing begging him to stop before he breaks another bone.

And yes, I know that's not the same but come on
Emotional blackmail and glitter. I love your dd d0oin
I already have my pets so I'm safe under her rules

Look, if you want to give up, then try it. If you don't, then no amount of glitter is going to make it happen.

And that's not because you don't love your DCs or because you are a bad person. It just is what it is.

It is not really about who has the healthiest lifestyle, it is about a mother indifferent to her children's distress

I think every single person who never does anything to potentially harm themselves should raise their hands

That will be no one
Hahaha, this is MN, Tantrums
There are an awful lot of perfect people on here.

xylem so you actually think d0oin is indifferent to her DCs "distress"
Honestly?
Because she smokes?

So every overweight parent is also indifferent? Anyone who drives over the speed limit? Who drinks over the recommended amount of units?

Glitter tears? - sneaky (they're obviously desperate for you to quit). Go and get hypnotherapy I easily gave up a 20 a day habit after 16 years. Had tried everything else, and it made quitting EASY (with the added bonus of fabulous night's sleep every night listening to the tapes).

Well funny enough TV I think we owe it to ourselves as people, not just as parents to look after our health and well being.
And, no amount of glitter tears will convince me otherwise.
So, when D0oin is ready to give up, she will.

And her DH should know better than to fees into emotional blackmail tbh. It's not nice.

I wonder how many obese parents, with obese children would suddenly start eating properly and taking exercise if faced with one of these pictures?

I tried bringing that up, Tantrums but someone will tell you it's not the same thing (even though, sadly, obesity has caught up to smoking in the US as leading preventable cause of death, in some areas, has surpassed it, and we're going the same way). But if I started a thread with the same OP, and changed every reference to smoking to obesity and weight-loss books, the outrage would dwarf that forest fire going on in Colorado now.

Tantrums, expat, you speak a lot of sense. A quitter has to want to quit for themselves, for their own reasons. Sure, those reasons might be "because my kids are worried" or "I want to increase the odds of meeting my grandchildren" but they are the smoker's reasons. It doesn't work if you do it for other people - you're not committed enough. It's like an alcoholic usually needs to hit rock bottom before they can think about getting sober. And I speak as a 22-year smoker who is on day 17 smoke-free.

I have known enough members of my family die because of sheer bad luck despite doing everything 'right'. It has resulted in me giving up smoking, excess drinking and bad food because I don't want to make the odds of my dying prematurely any worse, but I know that every time someone lectured me about smoking the first thing I wanted to do was light one up. It's why I never, ever comment on other people's lifestyle choices - until they want to change it the only thing commenting achieves is a lot of bad feeling.

IT may be misguided, but as long as it is within the confines of the law of the land, surely it is every human being's right to abuse their body in any way they see fit?

Sorry to be pious but with a father in law dying slowly and painfully from lung cancer i have to say yabu. Im sure you don't want to be 64, unable o walk, hardly able to breathe, swollen with steroids and unlikely to see another september

If this is what your family have had to resort to then surely you owe it to your DDs to try.

' Im sure you don't want to be 64, unable o walk, hardly able to breathe, swollen with steroids and unlikely to see another september'

You never know, some people don't care to live very long. I certainly don't.

Regardless, it's not on to bully and emotionally manipulate people.

' It's why I never, ever comment on other people's lifestyle choices - until they want to change it the only thing commenting achieves is a lot of bad feeling.'

Exactly!

I do think the fervent anti-smoking brigade are over-egging the glitter tears = chronic distress aspect.

Obviously the OP herself knows her DD's best, but whilst I always wanted my mum to quit when I was growing up and worried that bit more for a few days whenever we had the lectures on school or no- smoking day popped up, I didn't spend my childhood 'severely distressed' by it.

We are all different - I would have been 'severely distressed' by a parent who was running a risk of dying young and wouldn't do the sensible thing and stop. ( not to mention that you had to live with the smell)

Recently stopped smoker here. Know how you feel. I had the same from DS.

Was TTC at the time, but it was DS's nagging that wore my down and I gave up a couple of months before I got pregnant. I had got over the craving etc by the time I got pregnant, but I can't lie, being pregnant has given me even more incentive to stay off them. So, there's the solution- get pregnant

I wish I could say that smoking disgusts me but it doesn't, but it doesn't make me want to run off and buy a pack of 20 and a lighter either. Maybe that's the way it's always going to be.

If it's any help, I finished my usual pack, smoked SIlk Cut extra light for a couple of weeks then had an E cig (not refillable) until I just stopped buying them. Whole process probably took about a month. Didn't bother with patches and thought the gum was vile.

No point in being a martyr unless you think cold turkey would work better for you.

Think about it, for now, if you're not ready at the moment, you may just need to work your way up to it, and plan your method. I spent a few weeks quietly thinking about it before I announced I was kicking the habit.

Try the electric cigarettes. They are fantastic. I have been on them for nearly 18 months. They do the nicotine strengths in low, medium and high. Opt for high to begin with.

My children (all four of them) no longer nag at me. I felt crappy for the first two weeks but food and everything tastes so much better now.

Good luck.

Loving the vapers here! It really is the way to go.

I can't believe the worthy earnest replies! I agree about sprouts for a week and no sweets because they are very bad for you

Oh dear god almighty TV are you for real?

Her children aren't her priority? Because she smokes?

So the overweight, over eaters, parents who send their DCs to Grandmas at the weekend so they can have a good night out, is the same true for them?

Imagine what TV thinks of the formula feeders! Classic MN.

'Her children aren't her priority? Because she smokes?'

No, not because she smokes but because her distressed children make a desperate emotional plea, and she makes a joke of it.