This is emotional blackmail. There must be laws against this, surely?

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I can have them grounded arrested or something, no?

I got a lovely glitter painting from my DC. It's of a no smoking sign and a dead person .

It has glitter gel pen writing on it.

It reads "Mammy, please stop smoking. It is bad for you. You will die a lot sooner than you normally would. It will make you really poorly. We don't want you to die [insert face with glitter tears]

People who want you to stop
[insert dd1, dd2 and DH's signature]

Me and dd2 and Daddy would want you to quit. It would make us very happy. We love you lots"

This is worse than those awful bloody adverts with the children.

Please tell me I can punish them? This is just wrong. Glitter should not be used this way.

expatinscotland I told you i totally bagreed re emotional blackmail, but there's no comparison between risk taking physical activities and long term lifestyle choices. For example, a report in the BMJ stated that 90% of cancers are directly caused by smoking, alcohol and obesity. So anyone who fits those categories is taking an ongoing, risk that's different from parachute jumping - you land, you've survived or died - till the next time you choose to jump. If people genuinely understand that then certainly it's their choice, but I think many kid themselves with the argument that they could get run over by a bus. I'd never preach to anyone in real life, but honestly - how many people do you know who've been run over by a bus (and if you do then I bet they were pissed at the time) and how many smokers/drinkers/overweight people do you know who've died early or ended up disabled? I just think it's a shame.

Mine is, 'you're only a puff away, form a pack a day, Tiger.

How many do I know dead or disabled from weight or smoking or drinking? Zero. How many did I know killed in high-risk sporting activities? Six. My daughter died of a 'rare' cancer. It's only rare when it doesn't happen to you. Adults make decisions, dumb and otherwise, all the time, I don't see it as for me to bully, blackmail or manipulate them because I think that is always wrong.

You must be a lot younger than me then - I'm still agreeing with you re emotional blackmail but you don't seem to realise that. I did know that you'd lost your daughter - I also know people who have lost children to various 'rare' diseases or congenital abnormalities. In my daily working life I'm informed of about 3 deaths a week so perhaps I'm bound to notice the trend that the ones who are physically infirm or die early are often smokers, drinkers, overweight or a combination of all three. But leading a healthy active lifestyle just isn't possible for some people - doesn't stop it being sad if their families lose them early. Or if someone's mum dies should we tell the grieving offspring 'don't worry - it was her choice'. I'm still angry that smoking killed my dad but it's not directed at him.

Don't be so patronising. I'm 40 plus as well.

I know all about grief, thanks. I don't just see it at work, it's my life now. I buried my young child last year. It is a choice adults make, and bullying them about it is wrong. Let me go and start a thread about being obese - I'm not- and my kid drawing me a picture of a corpse and deleting all my books but one about weight loss and see the outrage. Food is an addiction, too, a deadly one, and one that has, in the US at least, caught up up to smoking as a leading preventable cause of death.

See the dangers of smoking dont scare me. My nanna smoked 40 a day and died after a heart attack. The he heart attack didn't kill her though. The falling down the stairs and going first into the front door during the heart attack was what killed her.

My aunt died at 42 after the cancer came back of the throat and lung. She never smoked and didn't even drink alcohol.

Death will get you no matter what you do. That's my view anyway.

This is the saddest thread I have ever read .These young children are expressing their raw emotions , their pain and fear in the only way they know how, and their mother's response? make jokes of it! she is one sick puppy
I can understand trying your damnedest to stop and failing but I can see nothing in your post to say you even want to

I have one Malcolm. I never got on with it. It makes me cough and makes my chest feel all tight. Maybe I should try a different brand?

Have you ever thought about how an asthmatic feels breathing in your second hand smoke op, and worse still, having no choice about it unlike you who chooses to smoke? Times that feeling by the 1000's!!

You have to decide what's more important...your fags or your family...no brainer in my opinion!

I regret quitting. I miss it. I enjoyed it. I wish I could still smoke.

What a load of bollocks. If you really regret it so much then start again.

Missing smoking is NOT the same as regretting quitting. At all.

Bollocks, you missed those quotation marks, too!

I would go back if I could afford it, in a second. I regret having to quit and one day, I'll take it back up again.

So here's a to go with those bollocks to suck up.

I used to do this to my mum. She didn't listen to me until she was about 60.

I read Allen Carr right to the end, apart from the times I threw it across the room in sheer rage.
The endless repetition was just brainwashing crap, I just wanted to scream 'Yes I know all that, it's not helping'.
I've given up before on the patches, I use an Ecig sometimes, but I'm still not ready to give them up and anybody that try's to tell me too makes me want to do it more.
Expat, can't you afford rollies?

expat - not intending to patronise - I've been on here so long without namechanging that I've been 50+ for quite some time!

ha! god for them, get yourself a patch, maybe they can glitter-ify it for you?

It'd be snazzy

Dad was diagnosed with a heart problem needing a quadruple bypass at the age of 47 (plus diabetes, it's like his body just stopped working properly one day). While the heart problem is a family thing, his smoking definitely caused it to be worse than it might have been. One of his brothers never smoked but still needed a single bypass.

He quit on the spot and has never had another cigarette in 22 years.

Mum however, can't quit entirely, she has about 6-7 roll ups a day. There was one window when she could have quit, when she was ill in hospital. she stopped smoking while there for about 6-7 weeks, and I guess might have stopped for good except for the encouragement of her sister (my aunt) who was a chain smoker and kept telling everyone that mum would not be quitting. With that encouragement mum didn't quit.

My brother smokes. I am the one who never started. Well, I tried one but decided it wasn't worth it.

Get yourself an ego-C or Tornado Tank from Totally Wicked.

The cheaper ones are stronger and not as good. You also don't have to inhale if you feel chest tightness. I quit with mine over a year ago and now vape no nic juice.. caramel flavour or Black Cat from VapeEscape.

Quitting smoking is hard. Do not give up on the e-cigs though.

My friend at school said she and her sister (both junior age at the time) used to steadfastly ignore their dad every time he lit up. It worked quite quickly.

Oh and I have quit many times but this time it is for good. I spent 8 months missing it, now I don't miss it at all.

I know this is it because every time I lit a ciggie I had a panic attack over it.

I admit that I love my e-cig and use it a lot and I can't imagine not using it now. It's no nicotine and I am pretty comfortable with the ingredients in it after lots of research. I might be 80 and still vaping but at least I am not smoking.

Do all the slightly sanctimonious people on this thread drink only the recommended units of alcohol per week, eat a healthy balanced diet and fall into the healthy BMI category and do half an hours exercise each day? If not then you don't really have any place to comment as you yourself are not looking after your body and health as you should. For all the ones that do, as you were in your judgement.

KellyElly I drink about 1-2 units per week on average. I eat healthily now, do at least half an hour per day exercise (brisk walking into town and back, 1.5 miles each way up a hill on the return leg, minimum) and while my BMI is not yet right (am well overweight) I've lost 20lbs since Xmas and will lose more. I'm not actually dieting just eating less and moving more.

So I reckon I can comment because I'm taking steps.

FryOneFatManic Good for you that you are taking steps but would you have really listened to judgement prior to changing your lifestyle or just been defensive. Just because you have decided to doesn't mean the OP should. I think it's slightly hypocritical to make a comment on other people's lifestyle choices if you have had vices or chosen an unhealthy lifestyle yourself in the past.

Ooh does this mean I get extra brownie points for doing 1 - 1.5 hours excerise per day 6 days a week, plus drinking 3 liters of water a day and hardly any wine at all and eating healthily 6 days a week?

Might go and start a judgey thread about all the junk food and wine people

If you actually look at my earlier post, I was pointing out that my dad's illness was deemed to have been made worse by his smoking. And that mum could have stopped if her sister hadn't encouraged her to continue. I posted about the experiences of MY family to provide an illustration of how smoking can affect you. Nothing more.

If, after properly looking at this, the OP decided to continue smoking then that is her choice.

Oh, and I wouldn't have been defensive before changing things. My weight issue crept up on me and I decided to do something about it as soon as I realised. And as I'm coming up to the age my dad took ill, it made me think.