To feel a little sorry for the 7 children benefits Mum.

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Is just seems like another bit of benefit bashing to me.

I know she shouldn't have had children she couldn't afford, but what hope of improving her lot???

Maybe if people didn't right these children off as worthless they wouldn't feel worthless.

there seems to have been a decrease in benefit spending from 2009-10 and 2011-12

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Or is that a 1.9% increase?

Can someone read the data properly please?

I feel sorry for all our kids. We've spent all their money. Life is going to be really hard for them.

The dailymail has has it wrong, as in july-oct all households with children single or in a couple will be capped at £500 a week, in that £2000 she will need to pay her rent, utility bills, food and clothing etc. Even child benefit is included in the cap.
I don't understand why some people think she chose this life, who would have 7 children whilst not working. Having 7 children cannot be easy, and as usual the tabloids show the mother up when quite simply where are the fathers???

And as some of you say she could choose a smaller house, try actually moving, it's not easy the housing association & council don't have these smaller houses to move in too!!! And neither would she be able to go private, as a garantour would be needed aswell as a deposit and rent in advance.

The tabloids like to make all those on benefits look like they are living the high life when obviously they don't. Lets face it i wouldn't be surprised if the gov haven't paid the tabloids to feature all this shit to get you all voting for them!

Yes the benefit cap will include rent. I don't agree with the cap for this reason, some private landlords charge a fortune for rent, it could leave this family with very little each week for bills, food etc. why should the kids have to suffer because they happen to have been born into a large family?!

I don't understand why some people think she chose this life

so why have a 7th child in an on/off relationship?

at which point is she putting the DC first?

Because she was not allowed access to the free contraception faster-or so we keep being told

My neighbours who are on benefits certainly don't live on the breadline-they have a nicer house than us,a nicer car and go on a holiday abroad every year. Something we can only dream of-hardly gruel and water now is it?

I didn't realise the cap was so strict! Excellent! Good ole Tories!

Oh yes, we mustn't presume anything about this lovely lady and yet it's al is desperate for us to believe she is a contraceptive denied victim of DV.

This argument is futile anyhoo. Regardless of who is in government subsequently-the benefit reforms will go ahead. So pointless greetin' about it really.

Yes I think you are right Ash

I know a few on benefits through a family member. They all smoke, have a takeaway weekly and an annual holiday , all drive and get drunk every Saturday.

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At what point isn't she putting her children first.

I imagine they are fed, have a roof over their head, go to school, have mum at home when they come home. They aren't packed like sardines and have their own room, privacy etc. This is surely a bonus for the children to be able to study/ homework etc.

Indeed Ashoe it's all looking good for decent working people after 15 years of Labour throwing our taxes at the feckless, useless and lazy.

Thing is it will be the children that suffer and question is do we want to start seeing children going without a roof or heating to be able to afford food?
I do believe some get it on a plate, but when rents are so high nowadays how are people expected to survive when this takes affect

My children are packed "like sardines" *more"-3 in 1 bedroom because that's all we can afford at the moment. Do you really not see how that pisses on people who work for a living chips?

its 500 per week so 52 x 500 = 26k pa, not 24 kpa

and its untaxed. and FSM etc.

so something like a pretax salary of 42k pa

which only 8% of women who work FT, earn. if you earn 42k, you receive 31k and the other 10k goes in taxes.

so if you have 100 women working FT:

4 of them pay enough tax to fund the mother of 7 & nothing else.
4 of their taxes goes to govt coppers
the other 92 have a lower income than mother of 7.

she's just been on the TV. She says her husband is the father of six of the kids and doesn't pay a penny. She says that is where the government should be chasing.

although I can't understand her decision to have that many children, I think she has a point there.

Ash

I'm not so sure the changes to welfare will all go ahead, like the GCSE fiasco.
The trial of UC set for the town i live in has been scrapped. My friend is a cs working on the new benefit system. She heard a rumor this week one of the other towns in NW set to trial is also scrapping.

Not all areas do what Birmingham seems to. There isn't a council house in my area that is larger than a 4-bed. There is no school uniform help, no help with the costs of school swimming lessons (at £5 a week, they're not cheap).

No help with preschool costs until the term after your DC turns 3yo, either - and they only take a September intake, so most people have to pay at least £45 a week for 3 half day sessions of preschool for a minimum of one term.

No, she shouldn't have a 6-bed house when she's on benefits, is she bloody insane?!

I have a friend who did have 10 DC's in a 4-bed, but now 3 have left home she has 7 in there, a mix of boys and girls ranging in age from 5yo to 17yo.

Ok, her DH works now, and earns a fucking shed-load, but when they got the house, he had just left the army and they didn't have a pot to piss in.

I can see NO reason why she can't fit 7 DC's in a 3 plus parlour (a 3-bed with a dining room that you turn into a fourth bedroom), or a 4-bed at a stretch.

No, £2k won't go very far if you are renting a 6-bed bloody house - in my town a FOUR bed private rented is £1,300 PCM.

She NEEDS to downsize her house, and to learn to budget better.

Clothing costs need careful thought with a large family - to get the best out of the clothes so that they can be passed down, pay £1-£3 more per item and get them from a shop that sells better quality clothes, rather than buying supermarket clothes that only last a few months before being trashed.

If you have lots of DC's, cheap clothing is a false economy.

She could cut down on things like Sky, less presents on Birthdays and Christmas, cheaper food etc.

And FGS make the Father's pay PROPER maintenance!!

She didn't 'make' all 7 DC's by herself, did she?!

Why is it only HER getting vilified?

I agree that the father of her children should pay his share. After all he must have a super duper job to have afforded 6 kids on the first place surely?...

How about she's not putting her children first by having so many she can't afford to raise?