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To feel a little sorry for the 7 children benefits Mum.

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MilgramsLittleHelper · 12/06/2013 11:19

www.itv.com/daybreak/hottopics/benefits-mum/

Is just seems like another bit of benefit bashing to me.

I know she shouldn't have had children she couldn't afford, but what hope of improving her lot???

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BaconKetchup · 12/06/2013 17:28

pumpkin according the DM article (whether this is definitely reliable is questionable) she receives £2647 in total with £715 in housing benefit. So almost £2000 is left over.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 12/06/2013 17:29

Why do you think she receives CARER's ALLOWANCE.

could it possibly be because she is unable to work as she is a FULL TIME CARER perchance?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 12/06/2013 17:29

Don't let that stop you frothing away and saying she should get a job though.

ItsallFeegle · 12/06/2013 17:29

I really hope it's a warning Fanjo Grin you may find a horses heed in your bed Shock

BeauNidle · 12/06/2013 17:30

No Fanjo, she has never said she is a full time carer in what I have read, she just said she couldn't get a job.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 12/06/2013 17:31

but she gets carers allowance and DLA x 2.

Hence she has two children who need considerable extra care which means she cannot work..

Why is that complicated to understand?

morethanpotatoprints · 12/06/2013 17:31

Do you know some of the comments on here are frightening.

To summarise, some of you think that parents on benefits/ or just some of them deserve to have their dc taken into care and/ or adopted. Mothers should receive forced sterilisation, and we don't need the children of benefit claimants.
What a vile and disgusting lot, some of you are. I pity you for being so jealous of people who are obviously far worse off than you. Please don't try and deny the jealousy it is really obvious and proves shallowness beyond belief.

FasterStronger · 12/06/2013 17:31

so bad she had another with her new partner.

BeauNidle · 12/06/2013 17:32

Is that on top of the 2600?

Poor woman.

BeerTricksPotter · 12/06/2013 17:33

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BaconKetchup · 12/06/2013 17:33

morethanpotato very very few people on this thread have expressed idiotic beliefs like that. Most people disapproving do NOT think like that

morethanpotatoprints · 12/06/2013 17:36

Bacon

Thank goodness for that. I think its scary even if one person thinks like that, tbh.

BeauNidle · 12/06/2013 17:36

BeerTricksPotter Wed 12-Jun-13 17:33:23
I don't care what she gets in benefits, so feel free to imagine my bit of tax added with all the other people-who-don't-give-a-shit's taxes going to support her childrens' welfare.

While yours goes to fund something you deem worthy.
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A nice thought, but I think there is not alot left in the state 'pot' for worthy causes.

BeerTricksPotter · 12/06/2013 17:38

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littlediamond33 · 12/06/2013 17:39

If you cannot aford 7 children then dont have 7 children.contraception is free! my husband and i work full time, some times 6 days a week for a little more than 2k, its bloomin hard but thats what you have to do if you have children! I am not a benefits basher, i think there are people out there that need benefits, but not just because they have rooks of children.Grrrr!

claig · 12/06/2013 17:40

I have just watched the interview.
I think it is obscene to be attacking her and having a go at her, and to see Anne atkins on there telling her "we have to work to eat" takes teh biscuit.

The father does not contribute, she has 7 children and is doing a great job bringing them up and going to school and they will one day be workers and contribute to all of us.

Anne Atkins is privileged, went to Perse School and Oxford University and is a novelist and journalist and the mother of 7 has never had that privilege or education.

She is not living the life or Riley and is bringing her children up far cheaper and better than the state could.

ItsallFeegle · 12/06/2013 17:41

But there'd be billions more if this government weren't bailing out other countries or helping to fund wars just to stay on America's team!

BeauNidle · 12/06/2013 17:43

The benefit budget has gone through the roof in recent years. Hence the cutbacks elsewhere to continue pouring it into the welfare pot.
Which is my biggest beef. Look at the education system, pretty much fucked. And we have to educate those on a lifestyle choice of benefits that this is not the normal way forward. Schools hardly have enough resources to give each child an exercise book, let alone teach them anything outside the curriculum.
NHS - not enought docs, nurses, cancelled ops, waiting lists longer than life itself in some cases.
Armed forces - men and women on the front line without vital equipment.

Anyway I have said this repeatedly on this thread and me dinner will be burning. But you get my gist. The pot is not forever full and those who need the welfare state deserve it, but those who choose a life on Bens should bugger off. Grin

merrymouse · 12/06/2013 17:43

But if people on this thread don't think these children should receive benefits so that their mother can care for them, and don't think they should be taken into care and don't think there should be forced sterilisation, its not very clear how people think the situation should be different.

ItsallFeegle · 12/06/2013 17:44

And on that note - what about our troops who don't even have basic kit? Who have to buy it themselves?

This country is in a mess financially and not because of people on benefits!

racmun · 12/06/2013 17:44

If she gets £2k a month that equates to a salary of roughly £32k a year which is above the national average.

The problem with the benefit system is that in a working family you don't automatically get more money or a bigger house if you have another baby - you have to make what you earn go a bit further in other words you 'cut your cloth'.
I would love to have 4 children but no that in reality 2 will be our limit due to finances.

There doesn't until now seem to be any limit on the benefit payments. Personally I think if you are living on benefits then you should get funding for say the first 2 and no more than that. It'd be interesting to see if people then went on to have 7 or 8 kids they can't afford!! You'd need to make allowances for people working who get made redundant with more than 2 children but no support for additional children after the first claim date.

It's not your right to have children and expect the state to fund them and as for feeling sorry for the woman in question - I don't. I feel more sorry for people going out to work and struggling financially as well as having to balance childcare issues.

Condoms and the pill are free at the family planning clinic so there's no excuse there

ItsallFeegle · 12/06/2013 17:45

Kinda an x-post with Beau, kinda Wink

ItsallFeegle · 12/06/2013 17:46

There IS an excuse for the women who aren't allowed to access contraception though....

BeerTricksPotter · 12/06/2013 17:47

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merrymouse · 12/06/2013 17:49

But given that this woman already has the children and the ship of giving her some better contraception advice has sailed, how is she now supposed to cut her coat according to her cloth? Sell a couple of children?