To feel a little sorry for the 7 children benefits Mum.

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www.itv.com/daybreak/hottopics/benefits-mum/

Is just seems like another bit of benefit bashing to me.

I know she shouldn't have had children she couldn't afford, but what hope of improving her lot???

Bacon - ketchup is so common

and because it depends about what options are open to you:

100k pa FT v benefits, no thanks
15k pa FT v benefits, yes please

That was lighthearted, of course, Bacon. Please don't take offence

I don't understand

I'm not taking offence but I genuinely don't understand

I can't imagine thinking the children should be moved into a smaller house and lose their own bedrooms. What kind of mentality is that? Ah..one which just cares about money.
No, to be specific, Fanjo, cares about who's earning the money.

Don't have strong feelings either way about her. However feckless she may have been, her children exist and one way or another our society has to care for every child in the uk. I imagine it is cheaper for them to be cared for by a loving mother than be put into care.

I do feel sorry for all benefit claimants who will find life tougher because of this kind of rather irrelevant headline. Have daybreak give much coverage to cuts in legal aid?

Because I like work, I have a work ethic, and I was brought up not to put my hand out expecting to be filled by someone else.

As I said, and I will say it again and again and again: The welfare state was designed to be a safety blanket for the less fortunate not a lifestyle choice for the feckless and bone idle.

No one objects when the welfare state is used for its proper purpose.

Upon further reading, not included in the tot up of money is 2 lots of DLA and carers allowance.

Boulevard - we also know that this money comes by taking it from armed forces, police, nhs, education et al.
If we all had that attitude there'd be folk moaning that they can't have an operation without an 18 month wait etc etc.

Just a wee joke, but everyone knows it should be bacon and brown sauce

Just because we've got opposing opinions, doesn't mean we can't giggle.

Sometimes less fortunate means being born into a family that isn't very good at family planning.

Large families have high benefits because the parents claim m

claig is your post serious?

Absolutely.

We have a declining birth rate. We need more people. £32000 per year benefits is nothing compared to the expenses and taxi fares paid by the taxpayer to some MPs.

There are very few families with 7 children and £32000 is much cheaper than caring for them in social care and the outcome for the kids will be much better with their family.

ItsallFeegle Oh I see No no no, bacon with ketchup is the food of the gods. Can't besmirch it with brown sauce!

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Claim money on behalf of their children, not because they have a right to claiming for themselves.

claig I'm not talking about any post like that

I'm talking about the post about the DM?

Lets stop funding illegal wars instead of demonising benefits claimants...there's a thought

Oh FFS! Me and you, Bacon, we were never meant to be

I'd also be interested to meet this mythical landlord who's going to rent their 3-bed property to someone on HB with 7 kids...

The majority do use benefits as a safety net. Am on my phone so can't find them right now, but there are studies on the rate of depression amongst benefit claimants. You have to be seriously messed up to prefer a soul-crushing life on benefits.

And it is soul-crushing. I sincerely hope none of you find yourselves in that position.

ItsallFeegle - Nobody is demonising benefits claimants as a whole. It is those who have chosen this as a lifestyle choice that we have the issue with. Of which there are many, and numbers growing every day.

Feegle there's still hope if your username is a reference to the Terry Pratchett books...

BeauNidle, she can't downsize. Don't you know that making her children share a room (2 to each room) would be too traumatic on her children and would be cruel beyond words. Her children have got used to having their own rooms. What kind of society would we be if we expected children to share bedrooms? Only a frothing Daily Mail reading Tory would suggest such Dickensian cruelty .

We need these children? Why? Both parents are unemployed, children tend to follow parental patterns of behaviour - in a few years if they all do follow the same pattern, there will be 49 of them doing nothing and bemoaning they don't have a 6 bedroomed house each.

I fail to see exactly why we need them. What use are they?

FanjoForTheMammaries Wed 12-Jun-13 16:50:41

i cant imagine thinking children should be moved into a smaller house and lose their own bedrooms. What kind of mentality is that? Ah..one which just cares about money

is that a serious comment?

Yeah, BaconKetchup, claig truly believes the Daily Mail is the source of all truth and knowledge. He/she is a bit of a character, as we say back inthe old country.