to want a facebook status 'meme' thing that says...

[GeorgianMumto5]

...stop sharing meme posts about your tattoos and how I shouldn't judge you for having them.

I'll judge whoever I damn well like, thank you, and at the moment it isn't you. Stop drawing attention to yourself in this manner. (Except for you, person known to me who bangs on about them a lot. I do judge you, because some of yours are hideous and in poor taste.)

Well, am I? sigh Yes, probably. IABU for starting a thread about Facebook and to criticise the glorious 'art that you can take to the grave', apparently, but I do feel so much better for getting that off my chest, as opposed to tattooed onto it.

[BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability]

Ok, yes I would most definitely call that pornagraphic! Wow, I find myself typing for not the first time, what is wrong with some people!

[differentnameforthis]

I don't mind people sharing their pictures of tattoos, I just wish they would spell properly & remember there is no apostrophe in tattoos.

As in, "only people without tattoo's think posting about tattoo's isn't cool, they should get tattoo'd and then they would understand" or some similar shit that my niece is always spouting!

[chocoluvva]

Ilovemyself judging someone on their appearance is not the same as racism as people have no choice in their ethnicity/colouring/facial features etc. If you choose to have an image permanently displayed on your skin you can't realistically expect people not to make assumptions about you. You have chosen to display something to everyone who sees you and people who don't too, if you make a point of doing a facebook meme about your tattoo. Obviously, it's best not to 'judge a book by its cover', but we all do it to a greater or lesser degree.

Tattoos are a special case owing to their permanency - suppose someone is dressed very conservatively - they might have a very conservative personality or they might be working, visiting an elderly relation who they respect etc. You can't assume that person has a very conservative nature as you don't know what they wear on other occasions/at home etc. The assumption about a tattoo is that the person feels so strongly about their chosen design that they want it to be part of them.

[Ilovemyself]

Chocluvva. I have to disagree. Just because you choose to be tattood, or be part of a sub genre ( be it a goth, a punk or whatever) she not mean that you should be judged by others.

I understand that you have no choice about race, sex, or factial features but why should it make a difference if you are born with/into something or choose something. The point is you should be able to live free of being judged because of something that harms no one else. This is the reason for Sophie's Law - everyone deserves to live life without being targetted because they are different.

[chocoluvva]

You make choices for a reason. "Race, sex, or facial features" tell us nothing about personality or individual behaviour.

FWIW I try not to judge people and go on and on to my DC about the need to treat everyone fairly and with respect and to remember that everyone has something to offer. But it's unrealistic to think that people won't make assumptions about you based on the way you choose to present yourself. (They might 'assume' correctly or in your favour.)

[Sallyingforth]

I'll judge whoever I damn well like, thank you
Ok.
Then I'll judge you for making so much fuss about something as shallow and unimportant as Facebook. Don't you have anything to do in real life?

[BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability]

By that argument tho, belonging to a sub-genre tells people nothing about your personality or individual behaviour either, even if it is a choice unlike race/sex/etc.

All goths are not the same person any more than all people with ginger hair are the same person?

[Ilovemyself]

But having a tattoo shows you nothing about your personality or individual behaviour. Surely it is an outdated concept to judge people in this way, as tattoos become more mainstream.

That is my issue. Someone who thinks that a person with a tattoo is substandard is wrong. Just like a person who thinks all blondes are stupid. I still can't see how a persons choice in the matter changes anything - especially as it makes no difference to that person.

I am not trying to be goady, just trying to understand the reason why people think it is ok to judge like that, especially as they know that judging by race, sex, etc is wrong. By using that train of thought you can still be judgemental but feel good about yourself because "they can't help being born that way"

[chocoluvva]

What is the point of having a tattoo if it "shows you nothing about your personality"? (if it's on a part of your body that's usually visible)

[Ilovemyself]

Chocho. Whilst it may show you are a more extrovert type of person ( although not always) it does show that you are domineering, or a generally happy sort of person or anything like that.

In my case my sleeve is a mix of HR Gieger and custom bio mechanical work. What does that say about my personality.

It is more about taste in art or life defining moments than personality

[Ilovemyself]

And of course it becomes an addiction lol

[BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability]

Because you like it? Because it means something to you?
Memorial tattoos?

What personality type has a tattoo? An introvert? An extrovert?

[BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability]

Cross posting with ILM all over the place

[Ilovemyself]

I will give it a few minutes before I reply a second time Beyond lol

[thecatfromjapan]

I think GeorgianMum's main issue is the ironyembedded in the fact that there is a meme - which fact epitomises massification and non-individuality (and the fact that there is a meme points to the herd-like nature of the concept the meme promotes and the herd-like activity that re-posting the meme denotes) - squealing at recipients of said meme to pay attention to the sender's individuality.

Also, the meme demands a particular way of thinking from those to whom it is sent (a power-over gesture), whilst simultaneously implicitly bemoaning the fact that the sender(s) have been at the receiving end of the thinking/thoughts of others (in a power-over way).

Lastly, I think she just gets quite hacked off with the tedium of the same post arriving again and again.

She has decided to assert her own individuality and autonomy by laying claim to her right to disobey the command embedded in the meme.

No need to get very bent out of shape about whether one's own tattoos look good or bad. I think the OP is a bit more general than that.

I think her Facebook page sounds like fun. I stopped doing Facebook because mine was boring. I was never sent exciting memes about tattoos.

[chocoluvva]

Don't you think that permanently displaying the things you like/the things that are important to you on your body says something about your personality?

[Ilovemyself]

Thecat. I know where you are coming from. I guess the thread got a little twisted. I like the memes because I do see discrimination based on tattoos ( and hair colour or style, and many other things that should make no difference). But I agree, seeing the same one over and over gets a bit boring.

[Ilovemyself]

No chocca. I think it doesn't say anything about a persons personality. The trouble is people believe it does and take it as negative

[thecatfromjapan]

Ilove - true (re discrimination and prejudice).

P.S. I p.m.ed you (about another thread).

[BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability]

And there we go, me and ILM can't have the same personality just because we are tattooed, because I hate the memes

[Ilovemyself]

I like your style Beyond

[Ilovemyself]

Also choco, I just have to look at my tattood friends to see their different personalities. One is really a happy go lucky type, one is a miserable old git. One is the nicest guy i know and the other I would trust with nothing. There are people with all types of personality amongst my tattood friends. Like your group of friends I guess.

See what I mean, it makes no difference so why should we be judged

[chocoluvva]

I think the OP is just fed up of people choosing to have tattoos then going on about them on FB and complaining about other people having an opinion about them. Especially as tattoos are widespread - not like a very small, special-interest group. Nobody has said that all people with tattoos have anything significant in common - the OP didn't say that. But presumably, particular tattoos are chosen for a reason and that says something about the person, depending on the particular tattoo.

Judging/making assumptions/having an opinion - just like other aspects of your appearance you can't expect everyone to like tattoos. And they're entitled to their opinion. And you're entitled to have a tattoo. B getting het up about people not liking them and putting your annoyance on their FB news feed..... Nobody is made to have a tattoo.

[Ilovemyself]

Choca. The point I made and you haven't answered is why is it ok to judge someone based soley on their appearance. That is all I am asking.

[FrenchRuby]

My problem with these memes is that (friends on my fb anyway) 9 out of 10 times no one has actually said anything bad about their tattoos, they just assume people don't like them. It's making a fuss for no reason.