All these threads about horrible nasty anti-social noisy neighbours .

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Theyre everywhere on MN.

but if there are so many why cant anything be done about them? apart from sending them all into space !!

How are they all seemingly getting away with it all?

no amount of calling 101/envioronmental/noise patrol people (?)/police etc etc etc. seems to work according to some of the posts.

Are the services scared of them or something? they just get away with it.

regarding noise-if therers a cutoff time why doesnt anyone stick to it if its the law?

or DIY stuff? or parking on drives/stealing things/throwing things, ive read dont know how many threads just today about them all.

cant ANYTHING be done? they seem to know they can get away with it and relish it.

I think a lot of people don't make formal complaints about their neighbours if they own their home as when they come to sell any disputes have to be declared which may devalue their home or make it harder or even impossible to sell. I don't think many people would want to take that risk.

I find the issue of neighbours rather depressing. I'm now renting and the neighbours are fine but one of the things that puts me off ever buying again is the possibility of getting the "neighbours from hell" and being stuck because no one will buy your house, or if you complain it will cause you problems when you come to sell it.

At my last house (owned) we had noise problems with elderly neighbours. We tried to do something about it and achieved nothing but the neighbours were offended and never spoke to us again. Then we had problems with neighbours who wanted to practically build another house in their garden and blamed us when we objected and they were denied planning permission. I had problems with neighbours who wanted me to keep my garden tidier. I had to declare all this when selling the house. Thank goodness it didn't put the buyers off. But the whole thing left me feeling bad. If we complained about something, we were seen as the bad neighbours and we caused offense, yet somehow if they complained about us, we were seen as the bad neighbours because we were seen as having done something wrong. No one else ever accepted that they were in the wrong. Now I want a detached house in a field.

ive had mine telling me to tidy my garden too! weve got a patio garden and the weeds have come up but because DC and i are disabled we cant do it. nor can i afford a gardener.

i told neighb our hes quite welcome to come and do it if it offends him so much, and BTW he shouldnt be looking into my garden (we have high fences) in the 1st place! that shut him up but i can still hear him grtumble.

and yes i want a detatched in the middle of a field too. were in rented atm.

Oh the dream of a detached house in the middle of empty land. My lottery dream includes getting the worst possible tenants that can be found, rent them my current house and show my evil neighbour what a real neighbour from hell is like. If only I didn't like the neighbours on the other side...

We have a horrible issue with neighbours not helped by notso 'd' h. It is getting out of hand. Two stubborn men,it's over fucking parking & has kicked off immeasurably. :(

Our council are useless. I've complained about a neighbour's dog that is left to roam constantly and barks all night. I was told that they would take my dog licence off me (I have a licence for five dogs as a trainer) as mine must be attracting them. WTF??? How are my well confined (double fenceline, in the kennels or house when I'm not home, not allowed to make any noise) at fault for theneighbour never shutting her gate? So now I can't complain or risk losing my licence. Problem was solved by another neighbour who caught the dog killing two baby goats. Bang.

I've solved past neighbour issues easily when i had mental health problems! I wasn't scared of anyone which sorted out my bad neighbours straight away. I was a bit crazy and i think i scared them a bit.

Now i'm well and i do care what others think, plus i've got my natural wariness of others back, so i guess i may have more trouble coping with any nuisance neighbours as a result.

Going through the council is a ridiculously long process. Anyone who has nasty neighbours have my full commiserations. I and my next door but one spent 7 months trying to get rid of our horrible neighbour!!! We had called in every service possible council, police, social services, nspcc, sure start, RSPCA, the landlord, only to get as far as a noise meter turns out a power whinge to a particularly scary friend did the trick, my neighbours moved out less than a week later! Coincidence I wonder.

I wrote to our MP after we were kept awake for months on end by our neighbour's endless drug-fuelled parties.
I really think the law needs changing here.

He wrote us a nice letter back and said he agreed people shouldn't have to go through what we did and will look into it.

We've escaped, but not everyone can, it just doesn't seem RIGHT that people are allowed to behave like this.

And they KNOW it too. they KNOW they can get away with it as far as they can and make other peoples lives hell and send them mad or suicidal.

its disgusting.

and when landlords/HA give/rent houses to these people cant they TELL what theyre like? looks CAN be deceiving but come on, most are plain obvious.

but then again with HAs if they dont theyre accused of being discriminating, yet the vulnerable are not given 2 hoots about..

I agree, laws need changing. Here in Ireland I've heard of several cases where people have complained about noisy neighbours only to be given all kinds of excuses 'oh the police can't interfere if the noise is coming from inside the house' 'oh, that's really the responsibility of the Dept of Environment' etc etc. Meanwhile the annoying neighbours carry on partying, lighting bonfires, doing DIY jobs in the middle of the night etc.

I think years ago when people knew their neighbours things weren't as bad. But a lot of people nowadays seem to live in a bubble and don't even think about the neighbours when they're outside having a barbecue at 2am or leaving a dog barking in the garden all day when they're out at work. Also, there was a time when if parents received a complaint about their kids behaving badly they did something about it. Nowadays they're more likely to get offended and indignant and start defending their children and their 'right' to play football on the green late at night or skateboard in the car park or whatever.

It can take a long time, a bloody long time to get anything done however I have found power in numbers work..

Pretty much 90% of my street got together and had a chat about my next door and and concerns this was the start of may, 3 days ago everyone left the last belongings are just being removed from the house. But it did take going to the agents, ringing the council, ringing the police, ringing social services and I think the final nail was when the truancy officers got involved along side the police and again reported to social services and the agents..

Finally my street can live in peace and we all wait with fingers crossed that the next tenants are nice.

This is horrendously snobby but in a few months when I start house hunting I am not going to look at.... estates as I'm so worried about having noisy and rude neighbours.

buddha if only it were that simple. we live on an otherwise nice, quiet, residential street nowhere near an estate. we still have mental people living next door.

I'm not convinced budgets cuts are to blame. Councils seem to have been shit at sorting out these issues for years - it's not a recent phenomenon.

We live in a lovely, residential road and most neighbours are lovely. However the rental property next door to us has been a problem. For a year we had a group of lads there and it was thumping tunes all night in the summer, blaring music in the afternoons, strong smell of weed, effing and blinding and shouting at all hours - you name it. We spoke to them nicely a couple of times and asked them to try and turn it down a bit, especially after midnight but they took fuck all notice. The people on their other side were physically threatened. When they fucked off in the middle of the night we hung out the bunting. Then a lovely lady with a daughter and granddaughter moved in - and back out 6 months later because of the noise from the dogs on the other side. Christ knows who we'll get next :(

I wouldn't want to be snotty and look down at renters (I don't) but I would have serious concerns about living next to properties that aren't owner occupied in the future. There are no guarantees of course as houses change hands but this experience really affected me and made me realise how toothless the system is at dealing with complaints.

Lots of people are twats unfortunately and there's not much that can be done

I had mine today sounding like the dalai Lama! wailing for 5 hours on the trot. (hes of chinese/tibetan origin). nothing wrong with someone praying but we lived once near a mosque and THAT was a nightmare with the noise. ( I once lived in a church premise and the bells early on a sunday drove me mad too!)

thankfully soc services came for a meeting to do with all the noise affecting autistic DC and they heard the wailing for themselves, saw and heard DC having a MAJOR meltdown and hopefully now something will be done, even if its soundproofing or something.

it only takes ONE neighbour to spoil the whole street.

our last place was HA and we were the ONLY quiet ones.

this is an otherwise fairly quiet street. but my next door must be an insomniac as hes all night with doors, cupboards, loo flushing ewtc etc.

wasa we were and are renters and were the nice ones! unfortuatley ive had the rotten renters too so know exactly what you mean.

I wouldn't want to be snotty and look down at renters (I don't) but I would have serious concerns about living next to properties that aren't owner occupied in the future.

Sorry, but I really take exception to this. I grew up in rented property - my parents have NEVER bought, they simply cannot afford to - and it galls me that you would look down your nose at living next door to us because we couldn't afford to own our home. FWIW we were always incredibly respectful of our neighbours and my Dad would give us a right royal bollocking if we were noisy or anything along those lines. My kids are now taught the same level of respect (and we own our house). I don't think whether you own or rent has much to do with it - some people are just shitheads with no respect for others.

My parents and two younger brothers ended up leaving our huge HA property and moving down to the coast because of THEIR shitty neighbours (I'd moved out by this point). They had grief for over two years (much of which I witnessed), police were involved and the HA did absolutely nothing. My Dad (the loveliest bloke you could meet) was a bag of nerves and my youngest brother who has social anxiety at the best of times was almost a recluse.

But the very second the neighbours said my Dad had made racist remarks to them (which he bloody hadn't!) the HA were all over MY family. Police involved again, neighbours proven to be hate-filled liars - nothing from HA to support my family. Dad even had a recording of woman next door threatening to 'kill his kids next time she saw them'. HA not interested.

heartbroken exactly what happened in our HA polace. grief and abuse from neighbours, and one day afetr yet another screaming meltdown from DC THEY complained to HA and they came after US!

after all my complaints (neighbours set DC off with their noises) and id logged etc etc. sh all fro HA.

sorry your family went thru t5his, totalyy understand. me and DC have social anxiety.

and thing is you try dont you? try to appeal to their better nature...but they HAVE no decent nature at all.

My council was shite BEFORE the tories.

As said before write to your MP, say it isnt good enough there is not enough support for people suffering in their own homes from bad neighbours.

Google some of the stories where people have topped themselves and send it to them, saying - do you want this to be me next.

They have - the MP and the council a duty of care to you.

Do you know how much these people in councils get paid??????

In the nicest possible way, stop moaning on here, we cant help any of you with noise issues.

Channel your anger and get letters out - saying you cannot cope anymore and get onto your MP's and also counsillors.

My suggestion, idea was a fine....going up every time.

So I get constant noise, anti social issues, the landlord gets notified and has say - three months to sort it. After that, if i am still complaining and there is problems,.....verified by council or other neighbours....then he gets a fine.

Money and fines are the only things that speaks to these people.

Yonis, i HAVE written before to local mps from ALL parties and they have done absolute sh***t about it.

ive written again saying pretty much what youvfe said too and nothing. they dont care.

as long as they live in their detatched luxury houses with gagarge in affluent area, these people could give a damn about the rest of us.

and this forum is a place for everyone to have a rant isnt it? everyones sharing their stories.

I think more than any other 'minor' crime ASB ruins lives (caveat by minor I mean as opposed to murder and rape; I appreciate the hell ASB causes people is not in itself minor)

You need to be able to close the door to your home and switch off. Noisy/anti social neighbours are the bane of many people's lives and yet we still can't get it sorted legally. Much is bound to be due to perception - loud vs being able to hear the music, kids having fun vs shrieking, reasonable vs unreasonable DIY. But much is also due to enforcement. Because it happens out of hours there's fewer services on call to monitor its reasonable-ness. And finally it's due to selfish people not giving a monkeys about anyone but themselves. And that's the hardest bit to solve in my opinion. I was brought up not to bother anyone but so many don't care how what they do affects others. Very sad.

and when new neighbour moved in next door i took round a pot plant, welcomed him to neighbourhood etc etc, and had to say about DC and her screaming fits due to autism, if he was going to diy could he let me know so i can take her out, told him shes home schooled, yes yes, thank you he was very nice, i said i hope DC doesnt dusturb him with her screams, but that certain noises set her off,...i was nice and friendly...huh. i was a bloody mug.

NO warning of DIY, hes been banging doors ALL afternoon, DC having a fit (had to take her out for a while) hes STILL doing it, DCS screeamed herself hoarse, the neighbour on other side of him had a stern word but he doesnt give a f***.

he had visitors AGAIN last night and they didnt leave till gon 2am.....

we're just gonna have to move yet again. lovely for an autistic child to keep doing this to her.

I just had the temerity to look outside my window at the barking dog from next door which prompted a foul mouthed rant at me from the feral scumbag owner.

Can't wait to leave this shit hole soon