To tell people that say that tattood parents don't set a good example to do one?

[Ilovemyself]

I have heard comments that tattood and pierced parents are not setting a good example. I have even heard sub human, and shouldn't be allowed to have kids.

My values are that everyone should be able to leave peacefully without causing a problem to anyone else and living by the laws of the land. I also teach my children politeness and that you should always be willing to help others.

Am I being unreasonable to tell them to look at their own life first ( especially those that smoke in front of their children).

BTW my wife and I are both heavily tattood and have piercings.

^^ Yes yes ilovemyself

Did you post the thread just to get to say all that in your last post, OP?

If so, you could have just put that in your first one and left out the smoking references. I'm a non-smoking, non-drinking, non-artworked, non-pierced person who barely notices things that people want me to notice. I don't care who has what.

Everybody seems to judge everybody else for everything... and that would include yourself.

I only made the smoking point because it is a harmful activity. As I said, wish I hadn't mentioned that part now - or at least mentioned it in another thread !

Some of me is quite pleased that so many 20/30 somethings have got tattoos and piercings. It means by the time dds are old enough to want to rebel, not getting a tattoo will be a good way of showing it.

Deepred. What is your problem with them. Has a tattoo jumped off someone and bit you?

I don't understand why people are anti tattoo. Ambivalent to them yes, but anti why?

Kansascity. Already members of those groups lol

Some people just don't like them. Does that matter? I personally don't - would never have one. Don't care if other people do but I wouldn't be thrilled if my children had them. Personal preference.

I have a secret tattoo!

A panther, right at the top if my thigh, raising one clawed paw towards my hairline

It is fucking awesome IMO! It does make people do a double take when they see me in a swim suit, although I don't really fit into the lilac cardigan and pearls category, what with my dreads!

Tbh op I get where your coming from with the smoking comment 'how can you criticise me for having tattoos when your standing there shamelessly teaching your kids that smoking is normal'

The argument that your teaching them its bad is bull.

My best friend used to smoke and tell her dd it was bad and dirty etc, I wonder what that made her dd think if her?
She finally stopped when her then 8yo dd came home from school saying " mummy please stop smoking I'm scared your going to die"

Not liking them I don't have a problem with. Being discriminated against because I have one I do.

Why would you not want your (grown up) children to have them? It shows some sort of prejudice - your children are too good to have tattoos. Unless you have some specific reason why tattoos will harm them I don't see the issue.

I don't like them because they're a) permanent and b) disclose too much. I also think that many of them look like grafitti. Some are really works of art BUT they're on 'flawed canvas' (skin). What looks true to life now will not as time passes.

People do judge and they do discriminate; there's nothing you can do about that because much of it is silent and you can't pick up on it. If you're willing to accept that this is the case and wear what you want, against what's currently 'convention' then that is your choice. I don't think any parent actively wants to see their child(ren) face harder pressures and for people to be distracted from what's important by what's visible.

Lying. So what you are saying then is it is readonable to discriminate against people with tattoos because you don't like them. Interesting

No. I'm saying that people DO discriminate and it isn't always obvious. Is my explanation equally interesting now that I've removed your fatuous interpretation?

But you yourself are being discriminatory because you wouldn't like your children ( of course, they would be adults) to have them.

What difference would it make to them as people ? And it is the attitude of not wanting people to have them that carrys on the discrimination

I am not asking you or anyone to like them. Just not force your discriminatory views on your children when the only reason you can give is you don't like them.

Discrimination means showing 'prejudicial treatment'. I'm aware that others, in the position of employers, might silently discriminate. I don't want that for anybody but certainly not for my children.

It makes no difference to them as people anymore than hair colour or eye colour does. Be as blinkered as you like in your own decoration but don't label people as being 'discriminatory' when they are not. As I don't care whether you are white/black/green/orange in hue or accessory, I wouldn't treat you any differently. I might not like your 'look' but it wouldn't make me treat you in a discriminatory fashion.

Does THAT make it clearer? Read the definition of 'discrimination' before you bandy the label around and slap it on people. Otherwise, some might think you 'stupid', and there is no discrimination rule about that.

You are simply backing up the view of those who do discriminate by saying you don't want you children to have tattoos because they may get discriminated against.

If you can't see that then people may think you are the stupid one

Again, YY to ilovemyself.

I see. So, you've moved on from calling me 'discriminatory' to what? A 'discriminatory... apologist'?

I'm leaving it; there's really no point.

No. You are right. There isn't a point when you can't see you are backing up anyone that discriminates. It isn't hard to see but you clearly can't (or won't)