to think that Sarah Millican should never be given air time again?

[missmarplestmarymead]

Tonight, she referred to a woman's body being found in 'suspicious circumstances but that the motivation had not been sexual.' She then made her joke which was: how awful it would be to be a murder victim but to not be considered attractive enough for anyone to think that the motivation might have been sexual. She ended by suggesting that the victim could have trimmed their pubic hair.

I found this beyond the pale but made evn worse by the fact that channel 4 chose to broadcast this on the day that a young woman has been found murdered.

I loved Harry Enfield so many catchphrases

I was watching it on video at my mums the other day the righteous brothers were ranting about gay presenters and mention Barrymore hiding in the closet didn't get it at the time

Yanbu!
She's awful anyway.
I remember once seeing Sarah Silverman tell a joke, the punchline was 'please let them find seaman in my dead grandmothers vaginal vault'.
I think many female comedians feel the need to be 'edgy' or to shock.

All this proves is that some people like this and some people like that

The show happened to be broadcast tonight. It was a recording of one of her shows, on tour, which has been going on for a while - the timing, in relation to anything on the news today, was entirely coincidental, so you can't possibly lay the blame for anything at Sarah Millican's door.

And the actual joke that she made is part of her whole 'theme' of her own insecurities about her weight/body. In that context, it was actually funny.

But above some people's heads, obviously.

10 oclock live is on now, that's what seems wrong with our comedians now. no sketch shows just look at how smug witty i am panel shows.

i was watching re-runs of kenny everett the other day and laughing my arse off, those were the days

If 2 women a week are killed by their partners it's a fairly safe bet that this joke would be in pretty poor taste on any day.

Sorry, did someone hold up Seinfeld as the pinnacle of comedy? Jesus.

Modern family and the middle!

Can't wait till 'This is Jinsy' returns hahaahaa!

Outnumbered, that's funny.

I dislike Seinfeld as well, I think the canned audience laughter annoys me as much as the woodenness of it.
I thought Sarah Milligan was better than expected. At times she was really funny at times alot less so.
I agree the dead woman sketch was referring to her own body insecurities and she's probably feeling bad about it being broadcast on the day a real dead woman who probably has been sexually assaulted is found.

Father Ted is on More 4 now. Its the one with the old men playing in a football match then its Kicking Bishop Brennan up the Arse. CLASSIC.

I much prefer British comedy, Big bang theory is the only US comedy I
watch.
I'm not generally a stand up fan though. Hate Jimmy Carr, whatever his name is boyle etc. Billy Connelly was usually great, also used to like jasper carrott, and most Jo Brand. The Scottish lass who's often on the R4 6.30 comedy slot is funny but I've only ever heard her doing shows with other people. Some comics are best as part of a group though.

Hmc - I rather think the onus is on people to be capable of getting irony, as opposed to comedians dumbing down.

I am laughing my fucking arse off at being called a rape apologist. Just take a look at any bloody post I make on the subject of sexual abuse. I'm one of the hardest-line 'no excuses for the slightest sexual misconduct' posters in Relationships.

Missmarple, Sarah Millican is pretty bloody obviously subverting that exact kind of rape apologist joke. I genuinely struggle to comprehend how anyone can take it any other way. Well, unless they are po-faced, determined to take offence and don't understand nuanced jokes. But hey ho, I'm not the one somehow thinking that one small joke in a pre-recorded show is purposefully linked to a tragic murder item on the news before it.

2rebecca - Scottish lass = Susan Calman. I think she's hilarious on News Quiz and would love to see more of her stuff. Knocks Millican sideways IMHO. Are lesbians better comedians than straight women? Calman, Perkins, Toksvig all pure gold.

just switched over to More 4. Kicking Bishop Brennan up the Arse is my favourite Father Ted

followed by the one with Richard Wilson in

I've never been a big one for stand-up in general (Peter Kay excepted), so probably not the best judge of this but I thought she was staggeringly bad. Like someone's annoyingly self-pitying sister who gets maudlin and inappropriate when she's had one too many. But really not in a good way.

you have to be a good communicator and comedian to do irony well - if it goes over peoples heads you aint doing it right surely

(disclaimer i haven't seen the clip)

Richard Wilson, lost in a cave and Graham Norton. Bloody brilliant.

Ooh and cows in a field and Dougal's lesson on perspective. I watch the reruns on Sunday nights. Makes the end of the weekend blues disappear.

My dad has only just recently discovered the joys of Father Ted.
So i bought him the box set for his birthday.

I think she is hilarious, I have met her a number of times and she is lovely a real girls girl, just my opinion

I would hate for comedians to have to abandon irony because it might go over some peoples heads - that route leads to the blandest sort of Michael McIntyre/Russell Howard observational stuff.

there is irony and there is being funny

surely if there is a doubt the comedian needs to rethink their act

I love the way Mumsnetters believe they are air liberal and always demand the right for their views to be heard, but love to yowl for the siliencing of anyone they don't agree with.

Stand up Comedy 's ethos is that everything is up for grabs, if you cant take it don't watch it.

Ps agree re Susan Calman - some of her stuff is inspired

Oxford. you seem to be a little confused about what I was saying, which is a bit odd as you seem to be able to understand a hidden sub text in whatever disgusting rubbish Sarah Millican is saying.

Let me clear.

I did not say you were an apologist for rape. I said, quite clearly that I had no idea if you were or not but that you certainly seemed to be an apologist for women who made jokes about rape. Do you see that there is a difference? Both shocking, in my opinion but nonetheless, different. Saying something outrageous and then trying to wriggle out of it by invoking the great god irony doesn't wash with me. Sarah Millican does not seem to me to be one of the great ironic commentators of the world-she just seems bitter and foolish.

The point I made about the so called joke being broadcast on a day when a woman's body was discovered was secondary. It is in my final paragraph, tagged on to the point that this joke was beyond the pale. My main point was the crassness of the joke itself, no matter on what day it was told. Don't get carried away with thinking it was the timing that offended me most. Maybe read the OP again.

I do hope that is clear but if it isn't, do let me know and, if I have time, I will try my best to present these points in another way.

Feel free to disagree with me but don't mis represent what I have said:that is a poor show!