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CailinDana · 22/05/2013 16:41

Have finally admitted i have pnd. I've had depression before so i know i have a slow road to recovery ahead. I would so appreciate anyone else's stories of how they overcame pnd. I need some reassurance at the moment.

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CailinDana · 27/05/2013 17:53

Imipramine. I rang samaritans. It always helped when i was depressed before. The woman i spoke to was lovely.

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Badvoc · 27/05/2013 17:54

Don't know that one.
I know that they do take time to work.
Glad you spoke to someone.
If you feel any worse or more despairing it may be time to call the ooh gp darling x

Badvoc · 27/05/2013 17:57

I haven't told anyone this, but when I was in the worst throws of my pnd I used to fantasise about getting in the car and driving off.
Anywhere.
Then I used to fantasise about driving into a wall/tree/river/whatever.
:(
I don't think I was suicidal per se ( in fact I was very protective of ds1) but I just wanted it to STOP.
All of it.
The white noise in my head, the anxiety, the stomach churning fear...
I left it far too long to get help.
You are doing so well x

flippinada · 27/05/2013 18:01

That's good. I've spoken to them as well.

flippinada · 27/05/2013 18:05

When I was in the throes, I used to fantasise about being in something like a car accident. Nothing life threatening, broken ankle or something like that which would necessitate me being in hospital for a few days so I could just get some bloody REST.

Apparentlychilled · 27/05/2013 18:31

I remember wanting to be ill too (not terminally or anything, just so I could be by myself and SLEEP!).

At the risk of sounding totally self absorbed, I can't believe how many if your posts I relate to- I think I assumed that the PND was "just" the exhaustion/not coping feelings, rather than the feeling trapped, angry, fearful etc etc.

I'm glad to hear the Samaritans helped. Un mn hug and Brew

CailinDana · 27/05/2013 18:47

Thanks

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Latara · 27/05/2013 19:27

Glad to hear that ringing the samaritans helped you, hope things will improve soon.

Wheresthecoffee · 27/05/2013 20:27

I had a sickness bug when DD was 6 weeks old, despite being sick it was quite nice to lie in bed for two days and watch DVDs. I used to want to go and leave it all behind too, I felt so guilty but I see now that this is quite a common thought!
I'm glad the Samaritans helped a little and well done you for calling them. Keep on being kind to yourself, you deserve it.
There's some sound advice on here about weaning from breast to bottle, a friend of mine had to go and stay the night at her mums to help start her DD on bottles, would something similar be an option for you?

DaisyDoodle · 27/05/2013 20:41

My DS is 2.5 and I think I'm just about back to myself again, which feels so energising. PND didn't affect my bond with my baby, it was myself I hated, and I furiously took it out on my husband. I didn't even want to leave the house. I tried to commit suicide twice and was hospitalised for 2 months in a mother and baby unit. It's been such a long road to recovery, but I've had amazing treatment on the NHS: ADs, counselling, health visitors, GPs have been a rock of support. CBT and mindfulness helped me the most.
It's exhausting fighting black thoughts every day.
However, I'm so bloody proud of myself for having beaten it!!! I've strived hard to get better, and the rewards is even more confidence than before, and a hilarious, loving toddler.
Hang in there.

polosareverynice · 27/05/2013 23:51

So many things I agree with on this thread I'm currently on ads for pnd and I let it get to my baby being 8 month old before I went back to the doctors for help. I did initially speak to my health visitor who booked me onto a pnd support class at around 3 months but I couldn't face attending. Made excuses and didn't go. I became virtually housebound at around this time and had to force myself to go out or do anything. It came to a head when I went back to the doctor for a minor issue and she was great she could see I wasn't well and after a few well placed questions she Recommended ads. But it still took another follow up appointment to decide that yes I would take them. And for me they seem to be working I still have down days but I feel more able to cope now and am finally starting to enjoy life again. But I initially kept trying to convince myself everything was fine when it patently was not, this I feel was the biggest barrier. You very been so brave to admit to your pnd and as others have said it might be a long way off but it does get easier.

CailinDana · 28/05/2013 08:12

Thank you for sharing your stories, it makes me feel less alone.

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Apparentlychilled · 28/05/2013 10:57

Cailin, how was last night? How are you feeling today?

LaQueen · 28/05/2013 11:08

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DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper · 28/05/2013 11:18

Cailin, I'm so sorry for what you're going through. This thread has been amazing though.

I have been lurking and occassionally participating in a few threads relating to PND, as I'm gradually coming to realise that I probably did have it, but never had the strength to admit it, or ask for help.

My eldest is 4 and my youngest nearly 3 - having them so close together, whilst I think it was the right thing to do for us - meant that my miserableness was just prolonged.

There were several factors that contributed, including no family on either side in the country (plus, my own lovely Mum died 10 years ago and I missed her like buggery). But in all honesty, as contentious as this may sound, I blame the pressure I put on myself to breastfeed as the biggest contributing factor.

My Mum BF back in the 70s when it wasn't fashionable to do so, and always felt that it was the best thing to do for your baby. And in her absence, I felt as if I had to live up to this, and that formula feeding just simply was not an option. In hindsight, there is no way she would have wanted me to be so unhappy for the sake of BFing, but I couldn't see the wood for the trees.

I BFd my 2 for 13 and 16 months respectively, and being the sole night time feeder and the only one who could meaningfully provide any comfort for pretty much the first year of their lives nearly drove me into the ground.

The sleep deprivation night after night after night after night. Seething with resentment and actual hatred for my sleeping DH for a choice I had made and was unwilling to compromise on fucked with my head. I know now that I was being unreasonable, but at the time, I couldn't bear him. He wanted to help; for me to express if I wasn't willing to give formula, but the thought of hooking myself up to an expressing machine on top of being latched to the babies 24/7 made me almost (actually?) hysterical.

And the crying... Both mine were cryers in the 6-12 week period. :( I have pretty much tried to block those times out of my memory.

I would see friends and relations post pics of them and their babies on FB, status updates, etc, and they seemed to be genuinely enjoying babyhood and it seemed so unfathomable to me. I wondered why I was so bad at it, and why I was doing it do wrong to hate it so much. It's not fucking rocket science; I'm an intelligent person. Why is it So. Damn. Hard?? Why?

I think I have come out the other side, but we 'emigrated' back to my home country when the DC were 2.3 and 0.9 respectively, and I think that exacerbated it to a very large degree - huge reverse culture shock which I utterly wasn't expecting, and massive 'home' sickness for my adopted country (and friends) that we'd left behind. Our 'lost life', I call it now. We were so naive. Why we moved to the other side of the world when our children were that age, I will never fully understand, I don't think. How to make a hideous situation unbearable... I feel like I am sinking again, and recognise all the old feelings and misery, as life here doesn't really get any better. It's only now, going through this, that I am beginning to come to terms with my likely PND.

On the plus side, we have been blessed with the two most amazing little people that we are so incredibly lucky to have. I wish I could have enjoyed them sooner. They are both utter delights and I don't deserve them.

x

pinkballetflats · 28/05/2013 11:43

I used to hope a plane would land on me, or a bus would hit me - and miraculously I'd be the only one that died and no-one would be hurt. I wasn't suicidal - this was explained to me years later by a good MHP - I just wanted it all to stop. The insomnia, and feeling I was made of lead, and watching the world from the outside looking in. I remember saying positive affirmations over and over again - looking at the beauty in the world. I could see it, but I couldn't' FEEL it - I wasn't a part of it. I was an alien and nothing made sense. I was a big fat failure - a failure to my DC and a failure to my then H - I wasn't, but I believed it.

Cailin - do you enjoy swimming? Or being in a gym? Could you get away to do that - even if it's just float around in the water or sit watching others beat out time on a treadmill - I found that incredibly therapeutic.

Also, meditation - allowing the horrible feelings to be there with me, not trying to push them away, not judging them and myself, just acknowledging them - sometimes it helped.

Still holding my hand out for you.

Badvoc · 28/05/2013 12:04

Oh LQ :(
I used to do that too with the phone.
I remember a dear friend phoning once and I cried and cried and felt such anger toawrds her because she woke ds1 up.
I remember vividly just standing in the nursery....just standing...looking at the dresser with all his vests and socks in and there were no matching socks for his little outfit and I burst into tears :(
Op....you are not alone x

LaQueen · 28/05/2013 13:14

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pinkballetflats · 28/05/2013 13:17

LaQueen - I can completely relate - that seemed to be everybody's opinion, including my H at the time. What on earth did I have to be sad about/overwhelmed about?

I felt like the most selfish, ungrateful person alive. I got so sick of hearing "Look what you have!!" "Pull yourself together." "Get off your lazy ass and do something about it!"

LaQueen · 28/05/2013 13:25

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CailinDana · 28/05/2013 15:25

Hi all. I'm so touched by your support and concern thank you. I'm so so today - had to have breast biopsy due to a lump. Rotten procedure. Doc isn't worried just wanted to check. So now i have to bf with a painful boob. I would give up bfing in a second if dd would take a bloody bottle.

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Badvoc · 28/05/2013 15:30

Op...if it protects your MH then dd will have to take a bottle. Sorry to be blunt about it, but having been there I know that ff saved my sanity!
LQ...I am the same. Irl I am on the B of gov, secretary of our local church council, outgoing, fun, loving...but whilst I had pnd I became a non person. A husk.
I remember telling my gp I couldn't be depressed (like you, lovely dh, nice house etc) because I didn't have anything to be depressed about!
In reality of course ds was a very very poorly baby and we were both the victim of medical negligence. It would have been a miracle if I hadn't got pnd.
Like you, I also went on to have another dc and I was very very wary and always on the look out, but other than the usual day 4 sobbing fit I was fine.
It's not a life sentance op x

Badvoc · 28/05/2013 15:32

I don't think any new mother has it easy tbh, ESP celeb mothers.
At least I didn't have hello camped outside my house and trying to snap my in unflattering poses....:(

CailinDana · 28/05/2013 16:14

Any ideas on how to get dd to take a bottle?

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pinkballetflats · 28/05/2013 16:15

Leave the house and let your DH give it to her? I'm sorry, I've not had any experience with this, but I would imagine you being around might make it harder?