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AIBU?

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to think the teacher shouldn't have called DN a bloody stupid twat?

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wetspringday · 18/05/2013 22:31

DN was working on a compter yesterday and leaned back in his chair (shouldn't have done this) but he knocked over a cup of coffee that went over coursework. The teacher yelled at DN and called him a bloody stupid twat.

DN wasn't bothered and seemed to find it quite funny but I think I'd probably have to say something to the teacher concerned along the lines of it not being acceptable. DN is in Year 10 by the way (15.)

AIBU?

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musicposy · 19/05/2013 01:41

I can't teach for more than 2 or 3 hours without my voice giving up if I don't have a drink. You are talking non stop and it does take its toll on your voice. A quiet job, 6 hours no hot drink, maybe. But try projecting your voice to a whole class day in, day out and it's a different matter.

As for spelling and grammar criticisms . I often post from my tablet and it makes ridiculous mistakes, putting random apostrophes where they aren't needed and assuming a word is a different word. It's nigh on impossible to edit it so I just let it go half the time. This is meant to be my relaxation; I'm not in front of a class.

GoblinGranny · 19/05/2013 01:41

It's only two hours take home marking if you mark through lunch...

GoblinGranny · 19/05/2013 01:44

Missed the S&G comment.
In which case Bessie, I'd like you to know the difference between disinterested and uninterested please.
That's your target for this week.

Bessie123 · 19/05/2013 01:46

Well, bored/not interested - much the same.

Disinterested - if they thought the revision applied to them and was relevant, they would do it themselves at home.

musicposy · 19/05/2013 01:47

GoblinGranny

ravenAK · 19/05/2013 01:49

Heh @ disinterested/uninterested!

deleted203 · 19/05/2013 02:00

Just to cheer you up, ladies, you might like to know that my Ma had to take early retirement at about 57 because she developed a persistent, tickly cough. It became worse and she frequently coughed and coughed until she was red in the face and struggling for breath. She could not keep teaching.

Almost 20 years down the line this is still with her. It keeps her awake most nights and she says it drives her mad.

Diagnosis of doctors and specialists she has seen is that she has permanently damaged her vocal chords through teaching...

(Gives us all something to look forward to in our twilight years ).

GoblinGranny · 19/05/2013 02:03

That's not funny you know, I have exactly the same problem and am in my mid fifties after almost thirty years teaching
It also means that you are more prone to throat infections and 'orrible mucusy stuff.

rainbowslollipops · 19/05/2013 06:03

My first ict teacher used to make snide comments about me to other pupils. I saw him recently, he came into work. He always used to say I'd fail at everything and be a bum that no one would employ. When he saw who I'm now working for he asked how I was, so I rolled out the nvq's I have and where I previously worked and how I got up to supervisor level. Safe to say that showed him.

Although your dn isn't fussed, different wording could have been used.

mirai · 19/05/2013 06:08

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pinkr · 19/05/2013 08:00

Gosh we drink tea in class...I even make my seniors hot drink sometimes. when I was having morning sickness I had juice, fizz, grapes, crisps and had been known to take sweets off kids to get the awful taste out if my mouth....guess what? The kids didn't mind as they understood I was I'll and the senior team fully supported as they had popped in and I'd been a bit worried as a drink is fine but not food usually and the told me not to be silly!

disclaimer: i'm an English teacher so any stupid errors are due to my phone not my inability to spell!

SprinkleLiberally · 19/05/2013 08:09

We would not be allowed a hot drink in normal lesson but if I spend my lunch forty minutes with exam classes I take a drink. Seems fair enough.

viewwitharoom · 19/05/2013 08:32

Not the best choice of words, no but as the young person involved isn't concerned then it isn't an issue.
For those concerned about our hot drinks, shadow a teacher for the day then judge! Sorry but too many people think they can pass judgement on the working habits of others and teachers are so often a target for criticism!! Wanders off to complete her reports, plan assembly and complete IEPs before planning lessons and making Sunday lunch. Might have a cup of something hot too! Blows raspberry.

BoneyBackJefferson · 19/05/2013 08:36

Salmotrutta

"But I should also say we have 6 non-contact periods in 30 where we can drink coffee if we wish."

Next year my first non-contact period is P1 on Friday.

frillyflower · 19/05/2013 08:36

Why do you want to get your nephew's teacher into trouble? Personally I leave the schooling of my nieces and nephews to my siblings. I also think it would be a pretty mean thing to do.

everlong · 19/05/2013 08:39

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claraschu · 19/05/2013 08:42

It's funny and the kids enjoyed it.

What possible harm can it do.

I would argue that: "You're stupid," is potentially hurtful, but "Bloody stupid twat" is over the top and amusing.

Picturepuncture · 19/05/2013 08:52

I am also at some of the appalling grammar and spelling from teachers on this thread. Not all of you, obv, but shouldn't you know, eg the difference between lose and loose, and there and their?

Yes that was probably me. My spelling and grammar is terrible at 11pm at night. When writing quickly, on a tablet late at night, I make silly errors. Rest assured I don't make them at work.

Their- belonging to him or her.

There- a place of the over variety.

Lose- where is it?

Loose- I wish my trousers were.

Does any other profession get such judgement?

everlong · 19/05/2013 08:52

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GoblinGranny · 19/05/2013 08:53

No, I'd find the language unacceptable. My children both attended the local secondary, and college, and none of the teachers would use that sort of language to a student.

GoblinGranny · 19/05/2013 08:55

That's a dreadful attitude, Picturepuncture. I suspect you are not dressed like a professional when you post from home either, and may even have a cup of tea to hand.
Shocking!

cory · 19/05/2013 09:02

I would find the language unacceptable. But I would also expect my 15yo to understand that there is a lot of pressure on teachers and that in a moment of extreme stress unacceptable language may slip out. I do try to make it clear to my teens what life is like from the other side of the desk. I think that is also part of my job as a parent.

ImperialBlether · 19/05/2013 09:14

It's hard for someone who isn't in school to understand the level of stress there is around coursework. On my course there must be about 150 documents for a set of coursework and some of it is handwritten so can't easily be reprinted. Even if you could reprint it, most students save some on the network drive, some on their home laptops, some on the computer's hard drive and then some on any number of memory sticks, most of which they've lost. And yes, of course we teach them how to back it up.

I think the child wasn't traumatised by the event, though the teacher probably was. Give that teacher a break and some suppot and tell your nephew to stop being an idiot.

MissAnnersley · 19/05/2013 09:15

I think the language is unacceptable however I doubt I would be doing anything about it unless it was a constant stream from the teacher.

The tea/coffee thing is a bit strange. I'm with Salmo on this - there is absolutely no way they are allowed in classrooms when any children are there. Certainly not in any school I've taught in.

lecce · 19/05/2013 09:16

Aside from the need to have a drink to keep the voice going, can I also add the need for caffine to stay awake? I teach f/t and have a nearly 4 yr old who rarely sleeps through. To enable me to see the dc early evening. I have got into the habit of getting up at 5 to be at work for 6.15. I NEED coffee throughout the day, though I usually only manage a couple of sips at the start of a lesson and then it goes cold. Pupils I teach make a joke of my obsession with it and, when my last tutor group left in Y11, they clubbed together and got me some naice coffee and a new mug .

A few people have commented that leaning back isn't that bad. It really is, especiall if he lifted the chairs from the floor. IME, there are pupils who do this, and there are those who don't. Usually goes alongside other annoying behaviours and, over time, breaks the chairs.

The teacher shouldn't have said what he did but, if no one else is concerned, I don't see why you should be

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