To think that just because I'm pro-life doesn't mean I hate feminism?

[TinkerSailerSoldierSpy]

Friend and I were having a discussion, I'm 18 weeks pregnant, and it was a bit of an inconvenient surprise, considering I've started a new job just 2 months ago.I mentioned that it wasn't going to look good, me taking maternity leave after not even being there for a year, and she suggested perhaps considering there was no dad on the scene and my new job, I should terminate. I felt a bit uncomfortable but told her that I could never do that as I'm pro life and view it as killing a child. She then proceeded to stare at me like I had an extra head and ask me why in a shocked voice. I explained my reasons and views and we got into an arguement about it, the usual stuff, what about in cases of rape and if the woman's not financially able to support the child, to which I countered but is it right for a woman to get an abortion just because she wants to continue a party lifestyle? And she stormed out the house shouting that I was misogynistic and women have the right to their own bodies. Let me be clear, I certainly would never stop anyone from making their decision about an abortion, I just can't seem to get over the idea of it, it repulses me. But I wouldn't judge a woman who got one. I understand the other viewpoint but I can't agree with it myself, and in all other respects I would say i was very liberal about womans rights. When I mentioned it to other friend she said it was my views but they were quite outdated and misogynistic. Are they? I need advice, should I apologize to friend A?

[Sparhawk]

Ashoething Funny, because reading this thread I can see plenty examples of women saying they're personally against it and no-one has accused them of being a woman hater.

[barebranches]

ive just realised that clouds
how sad

[BabyMakesTheBoobiesGoLeaky]

So if a woman is using contraception and has sex and gets pregnant,what then? She should just abstain,just in case?

Cop the fuck on.

[barebranches]

shes should have the baby and either raise it or go for adoption.

[Ashoething]

On this thread maybespar but I have been on many threads on mn where this topic has been discussed and that's what people who dared to dissent were called. I am also sure I saw misogyny brought up on this thread but cant be arsed to trawl back through the posts.

[cherryade8]

Yanbu. I'm anti abortion and a feminist. I'm not sure why there is so much talk about abortion due to rape, most abortions are due to unplanned pregnancies after consensual sex, not rape.

It is a difficult and polarizing subject, but being pro life isn't anti feminist imo.

[gordyslovesheep]

women getting pregnant all by themselves shocker!

[pinkyredrose]

barebranches how many children do you have? If you don't have any I'm assuming you're celibate?

[Ashoething]

Take this discussion over to the feminism topic and see what the results are....

[AllYoursBabooshka]

Yes because it's that easy barebranches.

Wow.

[BabyMakesTheBoobiesGoLeaky]

Why should she though? Why should she be forced into something she was trying to prevent? What gives others the right to tell her what she should do?

[barebranches]

and having an abortion is easy...

[barebranches]

because we all know that we might get preg if we have sex... no matter how many chemicals or condoms we use!

[Ashoething]

Obviously women don't get pregnant by themselves but women are left to deal with the consequences. I am actually pro-life as I would never want a return to back street abortionists but that does not make me not question whether we have gone too far the other way and are now too permissive when it comes to abortion.

[BabyMakesTheBoobiesGoLeaky]

*Not bringing the man in hypothetical question into it as he would have no say so over a woman's body obvs.

[Sparhawk]

Ashoething I was unaware that 'mumsnet' equals the feminism board. You learn something new everyday.

[Remotecontrolduck]

Yes barebranches, because all kids put up for adoption end up in lovely homes and not stuck in the care system for years and being severely damaged by it.....

[Wishiwasanheiress]

Have you had one bare?

It is many things but easy? No. It's not easy. Not by a long long long shot.

[StuntGirl]

Whatever you like to tell yourself your views are misogynistic, judgemental and clouded by irrationality.

I don't want to be a parent. I take every precaution I can and if I did get pregnant I would have an abortion. I am very happy that I live in a country where that right to choose what happens to my own body is accessible to me. Millions don't.

Thanks to people who hold views like yours those women will continue to be denied those rights, and women in countries who do have those rights must continually defend them.

I hope you can raise your child to be more open minded and tolerant than you are.

[gordyslovesheep]

oh stop being so bloody goady barebranches answer this - what about rape? what if the pregnancy is likely to kill the mother?

[barebranches]

so we should terminate them instead?

[barebranches]

goady please read my original post

[Ashoething]

You are purposely misunderstanding me spar so I shall not engage with you any further.