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to feel very proud of the Scots' reaction to Nigel Farage?

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HeadFairy · 17/05/2013 18:32

Particularly the man who yelled at him "foreigners are welcome in Scotland, you're not!"

:o

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HeadFairy · 17/05/2013 22:30

Claig et al, I have extensively watched the raw footage filmed yesterday... there was no threat of violence, there were raucous insults yes, but we complain enough that young people aren't politically engaged, we can't then be outraged when the show some passionate political engagement.

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scottishmummy · 17/05/2013 22:31

farage got in a huff at his poor performance on radio scotland

AberdeenAngusina · 17/05/2013 22:32

He might pick up extra votes in England, amongst Daily Mail readers, but he won't pick up votes in Scotland.

Seriously, claig, he just comes across here as not very bright. He claims to have been here to campaign for a by-election, without seeming to know where that by-election was. He goes into a pub in a studenty area and is surprised to find students. When the approx 50 students get raucous (but not violent) he gets all scared. One protester is clearly held suggesting he "shove his Union Jack up his arse" which he claims to have heard as an incitement to flag-burning.

He has made a laughing stock of himself in the constituency which is was allegedly campaigning for.

AberdeenAngusina · 17/05/2013 22:33
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KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 17/05/2013 22:34

To me, Nigel Farage sounds like an idiot all the time. but the fact remains that to a lot of other people he doesn't. he is succeeding with people using the underdog schtick, and the more his opponents get together and agree loudly about what an arse he is, and negelct to address the reasons why he is succeeding, the more successful he will become.
This is the problem with the left - it finds it so hard to believe that those who disagree with it aren't evil, or misguided, or mad, that it always fails miserably to understand its opponents properly.

Viviennemary · 17/05/2013 22:37

The three big English parties. Say no more!

claig · 17/05/2013 22:37

It is on Newsnight now.
Farage implied that the BBC was biased and not treating him fairly. He then ended the interview. Some will think that the BBC's coverage was even-handed, but others will agree with Farage that the BBC would not have made so much of a rabble of 50 protestors if they had been protesting against a New Labour leader for example.

Farage has upped the ante and not played by the polite rules while being treated in a manner that he believes is unfair. Some people will think that is a breath of fresh air. He has also said that the protest was in part anti English, that he has never received such treatment anywhere else.

AWeeBitConfused · 17/05/2013 22:44

I don't understand how it can be claimed that the protest was anti English when some members of the protest were English themselves.

HeadFairy · 17/05/2013 22:44

Claig one of the protesters from yesterday will also be on Newsnight, so keep watching. You seem to be able to only see things from Farage's point of view.

Here's an example of what he said on the radio today...
"The anger, the snarling, the hatred, was all linked in to a desire to see the Union Jack burnt and extinguished from Scotland forever."

How does he link a dislike and a disgust at his party's policies with a desire to burn the Union Jack? I've seen the footage, there were no calls to burn the flag.

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claig · 17/05/2013 22:46

Farage has taken the bullies on and called some of them racists and fascists. he has not backed down, just as he did not back down against what he felt was unfair treatment of him by the BBC.

He has upped the ante and taken them on, and that will be popular with many people who will see him as a plucky underdog with a pint and a point.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 17/05/2013 22:47

"How does he link a dislike and a disgust at his party's policies with a desire to burn the Union Jack? I've seen the footage, there were no calls to burn the flag."
The naivety is unbelievable!
He links it because he's a shameless little gobshite who will make political capital out of literally anything - and the silly bastards in Edinburgh gave it to him on a plate.

scottishmummy · 17/05/2013 22:48

hes the political equivalent of a havering auld gimmer Chunterring

AberdeenAngusina · 17/05/2013 22:48

Some people might think that he is a breath of fresh air - but those people will not be in Scotland. Anyway, we have enough fresh air here in Scotland - we don't need Farage-style fresh air.

I would put good money on the UKIP candidate polling less than 2% in the Donside by-election.

teejwood · 17/05/2013 22:49

Claig either you have fallen for his bollocks or you are being paid to repeat it!

Nomatter - the more people see him mess up like this the more they will see him for the huffy public schoolboy he is.

Viviennemary · 17/05/2013 22:51

I don't even see the point of this Scottish Independence business. Everyone knows it will be a 'no' vote.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 17/05/2013 22:51

"Some people might think that he is a breath of fresh air - but those people will not be in Scotland. "
Oh well, that's the end of UKIP then. Scotland has made it's mind up. That's all that matters.
As I said, the naivety - and the insularity - are unbelievable.

squoosh · 17/05/2013 22:51

Claig is in love.

HeadFairy · 17/05/2013 22:52

Lots of the footage is on You Tube... there's quite a few people saying "English people are welcome here, you're not" (as well as the bit about foreigners being welcome)

They're a welcoming lot those Scots :o *

*unless you're Nigel Farage that is :o

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Fecklessdizzy · 17/05/2013 22:55

Makes me wish I was Scottish, frankly! Grin

claig · 17/05/2013 22:59

'Claig either you have fallen for his bollocks or you are being paid to repeat it!'

I am not being paid unfortunately.
I haven't fallen for any bollocks, but am analysing what has happened. I think he has made political capital out of this and that the rabble has habded it to him on a plate.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 17/05/2013 23:02

"English people are welcome here, you're not" - why on earth would that need to be said?
Scotland is becoming so parochial, it's depressing.

HeadFairy · 17/05/2013 23:04

Much as I hate to agree with Claig Grin I do think this incident, despite its validity, will be seized upon as proof that these young people with valid opinions are rabid loons. We're so cowed in to submission here we're shocked by passionate political demonstration. If we keep saying to young people they have no right to shout "scum" at a politician we might as well pack up now and go home.

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claig · 17/05/2013 23:05

Newsnight just gave this more publicity. UKIP vs a student protest.
A rabble of about 50 people vs a party that gained 25% of the vote in English local elections just a few weeks ago.

The majority of peoplle will back UKIP against the rabble and that is why Farage has gained both publicity and more support out of this naive protest by some naive students.

HappyGirlNow · 17/05/2013 23:05

Grin @ MrsKoala and

The only Scottish i have in me is DH

Toadinthehole · 17/05/2013 23:06

Karlos,

Scottish nationalists need to say it so that they can keep up the pretence that Scottish nationalism is somehow different to all other kinds of nationalism, ie, it is never racist.

What it means of course is that English people are welcome .... within certain limits.

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