AIBU to think crocodile pajamas are unisex and perfectly suitable for DD?

[CockyFox]

This morning I went to Tesco to get DS and DD some pajamas, DD didn't want any of the girls pajamas (cats, cakes, butterflies etc on them) so I said we would look the other side of the shelf for some for DS and go somewhere else for hers.

On the Boy side we selected some with monkeys on for DS and DD saw some with green and blue crocodiles on, and said she liked those. They had her size so I picked up the pack and asked her if she was sure those were the ones she wanted. She was sure so I popped them in the basket at which point an very friendly assistant who had been setting out shoes told me the Girls pajamas were around the other side of the display, I said thank you but we were fine. Then while i was selecting myself some knickers she appeared with a pack of pink pajamas and asked me if DD preferred those. DD bless looked at me and said 'I like crocodiles' so just said again no, we are fine and walked away.

I am sure IANBU, but do you think I am and if I am could somebody please explain what makes crocodiles unsuitable for girls? I am not bothered by the shop assistant she probably has really girly daughters and thought I was trying to make a point and was making sure the crocodiles weren't being forced on DD.

Oxfordbags I love your son's outfit! I dressed my boys in Breton stripe shirts with great frequency (I got so much use out of my Petit Bateau one, size 18 months - seared into my memory banks forever) until they honed in on the neckline like a laser beam and determined they were girly.

I can certainly understand that parents of pink-loving girls must find it frustrating when people assume it's foisted upon them.

There are so many beautiful clothes for girls out there (boys are viewed as soldiers or hooligans in waiting, it sometimes seems), I just can't understand the pink thing. I bought a beautiful apple-green smocked dress for a friend's daughter for her birthday and she was like, there's NO WAY she'll wear that, she loves pink! She loved it and wore it constantly. I found it irritating that my friend had obviously not even challenged this assumption.

Colors are here for all of us. So are crocodiles. They're adorable (except the real ones, of course).

DD loves what she loves. Currently her PJs are Buzz (Lighty)ear why she calls him Buzz Ear, don't ask me, sea life in blue, trucks ("more trucks, more trucks"), and dinosaurs ("rawrs"). She wouldn't be seen dead in Princess ones. I know she will turn to the Pink Side at some point but why encourage it?

I have to buy clothes from the 'boy' section because she looks blankly at the princess puppies and LOVES the trucks and dinosaurs (and bugs and monsters and robots).

If there is one thing I could stop with all this it is the image that anything scientific, archaeological, biological or historical is 'boys' and fantasy Princesses, cupcakes and fairies are 'girls'. Let's aim really fucking low for our girls, shall we?

What an idiotic woman. Wtf. Brainwashed.

When I was a girl loved ferocious beasts above all others!

For those of you who would happily dress your sons in dresses and tights, would you be happy if your husband or partner went out dressed in womens clothes?

I would love it if DP went out in women's clothes. He already wears a kilt skirt when Scotland are playing!

For those of you who would happily dress your sons in dresses and tights, would you be happy if your husband or partner went out dressed in womens clothes?

I think this is a real issue. Mothers of girls will dress their DC in 'boys' clothes but frequently the converse is not true. Which means that 'boys' clothes are great and good for everyone and girls clothes are only good enough for girls.

I realised when i bought DD a Buzz Ear hoodie that all the male characters were there but none of the female. Because the marketing adage goes, girls will wear boys but boys won't wear girls. What does that tell you about how girls and women are perceived in society. Breeding misogyny early.

Yanbu at all, I had the same experience in gap when dd chose the PJs with robots on, blue with bright orange robots and a pair that were pale blue with dinosaurs. The assistant was all 'we have girls pajamas here'...pointing to bright pink ones with butterflies. I showed them to me and she said 'no have dinosaurs' she LOVES dinosaurs.

I bought her a new toy schleich dinosaur the other day and a man in the queue said to her 'oh you don't want that ugly thing you're a girl, girls are too pretty to play with dinosaurs' WTF?!!!

There is nothing wrong with pink but what is wrong is the way girls and boys are pigeon holed into stereotypes! They are children, let the,m be children. Girls xsn like value and dinosaurs and boys can like pink and fairies, my eight yr old ds3 is a big fan of pink and purple and fairies and wears a purple tutu with his jeans and loves Tinkerbell! When he was looking at Lego friends range once in tkmax an assistant came and told him that it was for 'girls' and the 'boys' Lego was on a different shelf. Ffs Lego is Lego its unisex!!!

"my eight yr old ds3 is a big fan of pink and purple and fairies and wears a purple tutu with his jeans"

And you dont think a boy wearing a tutu at the age of 8 is not slightly opening him up to ridicule from his peers of both gender?

squeaky that's a problem that should be addressed by the parents of the children who ridicule others for not fitting into rigid stereotypes. Are you suggesting that 5mad should be one more person telling her boy that he's not okay the way he is, liking what he likes?

Well he wears it and no-one says anything, he tends to get thumbs up from local teens who seem to think its cool. He has always liked dressing up in all sorts of outfits and its not been an issue at all. He is who he is and it hadn't been a problem at school. But then he goes to a school where bullying is not tolerated and nor is name calling etc for being a bit different. The school regularly does dress up days for various themes etc and the kids dress up as all sorts its just a non issue.

I should probably be on the Feminism boards when I say this... I believe that valuing conformity and condoning bullying by telling kids to fit in leads to more bullying and ultimately things like gang rape. The 'team' is doing something hideous but you go along with it because fitting in is more important than anything else. 5mad you are doing it right.

And yes the parents of the bullies or those that pick on others should be telling their kids its not OK tho its not hard to see where they get the attitudes from . my son is happy and confident, I don't squash that and try and make him conform to some percieved stereotype. Just like I won't stop my daughter from liking dinosaurs. Interestingly it seems its OK for girls to be 'tomboys' (hate that phrase) but not OK for boys to be more 'feminate' ffs they are children.

I Agree mrspratchet we shouldnt be telling our kids to 'fit in' so they are not bullied, we should be telling the bullies to stop!

The poor bloody shop assistant. She works in Tescos in a minimum wage job
She was just trying to be helpful, and finish her day before going home to put her feet up.
Who knew she'd have the wrath of MN starting a gender debate, and insulting her.
I bet she really doesn't give a shit what pyjamas you bought.

My kids are gorgeous.
DD likes Thomas the tank engine PJs and her "boy" gruffalo slippers. I wouldn't call her a tomboy. She's just wolfie's DD. She is herself and unique. I'd never want her to be anything else. (Please remind me of that when I am bemoaning what a stroppy teen she is!)
I ask what they like. (They have to wear it!)
Conform? Yes in terms of not law breaking or being vile to other people. Clothing? Rock what you like.
FWIW. Tutu sounds great clubbing gear!!

Children and teens can be astonishingly accepting of gender-fluid/neutral children, as long as they don't have knuckle-dragging, narrow-minded or misogynistic fuckwits for parents.

It doesn't seem that OP was rude to the shop assistant, though, Lady.

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The genderfication of the toy market doesn't help children, its madness in fact as shown by the entertainer marketing board games such as monopoly, cluedo, guess who, elefun and hungry hippos as 'boys toys'.

It's not just girls - I get really jealous of the men's sections when I'm shopping! All the women's tops are floaty, sexy, insubstantial bits of fluff, whereas the men get good quality, interesting coloured and patterned tops that look like they might last for more than a week.....

No not the Op miniouminou, but plenty of people on this thread have said they 'would have said something'.

How to tell if a toy is for boys or girls

I love that flow chart. Well, I love all flow charts but particularly that one.

She probably thought she was being helpful, but YANBU there's no reason at all why your DD shouldn't have crocodile pyjamas. Some people are so odd about gender stereotyping. It's almost as if you're depriving your child if you don't dress them in pink.

I have 2 boys btw, so don't have personal experience but it annoys me anyway!

DD is just growing into her new 18-24 m/o wardrobe. She has some lovely Pirate Puppy pyjamas as well as a lovely Pirate Grobag.

It must be in the blood as I've also previously played a pirate myself.