to be ? that a teacher told my dd (6yrs) to wear cycling shorts under her summer dress if she was going to be doing cartwheels?

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ffs theyre little kids. who cares if someone sees their pants.

I don't think people are saying seeing flashes of pants are a problem.It is what lies within, revealed by ill-fitting knickers that is the problem!

my dd (8) wears cycling shorts under her dress...her own doing, she didnt like flashing her pants

Girls at my dds' school are allowed trousers or culottes. Shorts for girls aren't mentioned on the uniform list, although they might not say anything if someone wore them? I wouldn't send my dd to school in grey shorts in hot weather though, because if the girls don't wear a summer dress, they then have to wear a shirt and tie, which i think would be uncomfortable in hot weather. The poor boys have to wear a shirt and tie all year round.

If it's a state school, the rules don't have to be followed to the letter. At our school lots of girls wear skorts, or little shorts under their summer dresses. Some wear nice shorts, like these: skirt. As long as they are the right colour and right top.

I meant shorts!!

Yes it's state. I think they'd be ok with those shorts, but it's the shirt and tie in hot weather that would put me off.

Rowgtfc72 these in BHS look as if they have good 'gusset coverage' (and debenhams have some with princesses on which might be ok ).

I'm 25 and remember we were actually banned from doing cartwheels and handstands in the school playground, not sure if this was to avoid knicker flashing or because one of the girls broke her arm whilst doing them. Stupid thing to ban anyway....

But this thread has just made me think in general how stupid some schools are about uniform. Personally I think uniform is good, so kids don't get teased about what they're wearing and prevent school becoming a fashion parade, to make getting ready easier in the mornings etc, but I think it would be better to do away with summer dresses and have the same for boys and girls, they shouldn't be mad to be different. Trousers or shorts. No more bloody shirts and ties either, they're kids FFS. Just plain polo shirts and sweatshirts for when it's cold. More comfy and practical for everyone for playing an looks smarter anyway that shirts untucked and ties all over the place. And uniform should be cheap too, not stupid fucking prices in school shops.

How many of you uniform-lovers do have kids at non uniform schools? U can assure you that my daughters' (quite ordinary state) primary is not a 'fashion parade'. Please don't generalise from wear-your-own-clothes one-offs.

Non uniform primaries must be quite rare in the UK. I don't know of any round here. Is it more common in certain parts of the country?

There are two in my south London local authority that I know of.

I know of two in South London as well.

DS was at a uniform free S London community primary - and I 'ditto' what MI said.

Mine wear black boy leg style knickers over their normal knickers. I insist on it if they are wearing a dress without tights.

As adult women we (generally) cross our legs when we sit and don't go out of our way to show off our knickers. Why should it be different for little girls?- I am coming purely from a being respectful of yourself and others; not a sexualised point of view. If you were a dancer or gymnast you would have special underwear on.

And will someone think of the teachers who have to see maybe 15 girls sitting crossed legged on the mat!

I will now add that in hot weather I don't wear any pants at all

And the idea of double-panting my lovely daughters induces shudders.

But MI, do you wear a frock and do cartwheels?

ido A child doing a cartwheel in a skirt isn't 'going out of her way to show her knickers'

Dancers and gymnasts often don't wear any pants: to avoid VPLs!

Of course not original and they shouldn't be discouraged from cartwheels either, but shouldn't we be teaching them to cover up, in a way that is not actually making them feel bad or having to change their play? Not just cartwheels, there's monkey bars, swings, climbing walls, skipping (to a point), or dresses flicking up.

And it does not get hot in the UK, "double panting" will not cause a severely sweaty uncomfortable vulva. Even in Australia it does not cause suffering!

I'm thinking of the dancers etc that wear the twirly skirts whee you are supposed to see underwear. Not being a dancer I don't know if its part of the skirt or not, but you never see a pair of white greying floral or possibly Dora pair of knickers under those skirts they (whatever its called ) have on.

If they've got pants on, I think they're covered up enough.

Each to their own really. I prefer mine to not have underwear on display, if it can be avoided. (Maybe that says more about me- who knows?). Others don't care... It all adds to the discussion.

Blu, I frequently wear a frock. I only do cartwheels on very special occasions when drunk

Is this a result of the sale of adult style knickers for kids? I had to sift through various brazillian short style knickers before finding some regular well fitting ones for my 4 yr old dd.
perhaps if everyone bought decent fitting knickers and did not give in to the fashion pressure. The idea that little girls are comparing their knickers as suggested above is shocking or am I just naive?

If boys did handstands in their pants in the playground they would be told to put shorts on, so why shouldn't girls?
When I was at school we tucked our dresses into the legs of our (very substantial) green knickers, which were as thick as shorts anyway.