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To love Harriet Harmen....

104 replies

YellowTulips · 04/05/2013 01:22

Was her determination not to let a "certain historian" patronise the rest of the panel amazing? Also thought Victoria Coren was fab .

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theodorakisses · 04/05/2013 10:17

When I say I hate her I mean it in the way that some of you hate Thatcher. I wouldn't care if she met a sticky end tomorrow, vile, corrupt, self serving hypocritical bitch. Scum.

TheSecondComing · 04/05/2013 10:20

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LadyBeagleEyes · 04/05/2013 10:21

Wow Theodorakisses, a bit harsh Hmm.

TheseFoolishThings · 04/05/2013 10:23

I'm detecting a bit of ambivalence there theodora Grin

I agree with you as it happens and to me it's neither here nor there what gender she happens to be. A smug self satisfied shitbag is exactly that whether male or female.

ageofgrandillusion · 04/05/2013 10:26

Harman represents everything that is wrong with the modern Labour Party. Hypocritical to the nth degree, smug, entitled, arrogant, go-getting - need I say more? She holds voters in complete contempt. 'Do as i say, not as I do' should be her epitaph.
This is not about women hating other women, second coming - there are plenty of very good female MPs - it is about that fact that Harman gives women in power a seriously bad name.

TheSecondComing · 04/05/2013 10:30

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TerrysAllGold · 04/05/2013 10:31

TheSecondComing, calling Harriet Harman any of those names doesn't mean that women find it easy/easier to hate other women. That's just silly.

I called her "ghastly". I called her self-serving too. I didn't add hypocrite because I thought that would be stating the bloody obvious. No, she hasn't killed anyone but you can be ghastly without having done that you know. In my opinion, based on personal experience and having SFA to do with her gender, she is a ghastly person.

AuntieStella · 04/05/2013 10:33

What she's done? Supporting the abolition of the age of consent is the example that led me to conclude her judgement is poor. Even though it was some time ago, it's such a biggie that it casts a lasting shadow.

TheSecondComing · 04/05/2013 10:35

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AuntieStella · 04/05/2013 10:37

It was abolition for both sexes. Total abolition. The legalisation of paedophilia, in effect.

TerrysAllGold · 04/05/2013 10:39

What's she done? Back-tracked, crapped on her Peckham constituents, let them down, patronised them and failed them in too many ways to recount. Taken an interest only when it benefits her to do so. Paid lip service only. Failed to keep promises. And I won't even start on her views on education for the Peckham masses as opposed to those on her own precious darlings.

TheseFoolishThings · 04/05/2013 10:44

You really can't drag out the 'women hating women' card until someone here calls here 'that ghastly smug self serving fat arsed woman'. Then - fair dos, till then - not really.

TheSecondComing · 04/05/2013 10:45

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theodorakisses · 04/05/2013 10:49

I am not and have never been a housewife. I have an executive job earn almost 4 times my husbands salary. She has exploited middle class women by marketing herself as this great feminist and making people think that if they worship her and read the guardian they will know everything about the world and be morally superior. I think she is a corrupt, fake bitch and I hope she never gets unleashed again.

limitedperiodonly · 04/05/2013 10:53

I do too.

I had a small bet with myself to see how soon someone called her Harriet Harperson.

I'm going to buy myself a bottle of champagne with the winnings and drink it like the socialist hypocrite I am.

TheSecondComing · 04/05/2013 10:53

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Mugofteaforme · 04/05/2013 10:54

Hateful woman.

One of her last acts for the Labour Administration was to be sure that the Race for Life was an exclusion to the Equality Bill.

www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmbills/085/voli/09085i.276-282.html

I guess in her eyes some are more equal then others.....

TerrysAllGold · 04/05/2013 10:54

Yes I do call the current government all sorts of names, TheSecondComing, most of which would make you blush. And I may mean that HH is not a good constituency MP but I also mean that she's a ghastly person (i.e. she has a ghastly personality), is self-serving and unpleasant.

It's only fair to tell you as you don't seem to have picked up on it from my first post - unless you know her personally, and very well at that, you're fighting from the loser's corner.

LittlePeaPod · 04/05/2013 10:56

Wonderwhat captains of industry we have commenting on her incompetence on this thread?? What's that you say? Housewives and teachers? Slating successful women? Nooooo, not on Mumsnet

What an utterly stupid statement when you have no idea what the women on here do and/or what their positions are. Don't mean to sound harsh but I am embarrassed for you.

limitedperiodonly · 04/05/2013 11:02

There was a thread last week explaining why Race For Life is a women-only event. It seemed reasonable to me.

But feel free to go ahead and brand her a mad, man-hating feminazi on the basis of that single decision and make no other judgement on her steering of the Equality Bill or the rest of her political career.

grovel · 04/05/2013 12:57

Donkeyswife, Starkey is not a public school boy. He just wishes he was. Grammar school and scholarship to Cambridge.

LadyBeagleEyes · 04/05/2013 13:01

It was mentioned on another thread that he's a Holocaust denier.
Is that true?

Geezer · 04/05/2013 13:03

grovel, why would anyone wish they were an ex public schoolboy when they've earned their education through gaining a place in grammar school and winning a scholarship to Cambridge? Confused

SoniaGluck · 04/05/2013 13:13

I can't work out whether Starkey just can't help himself or if he is now just playing to his reputation for rudeness.

He has form for misogyny, though. He appears to dislike women intensely and is either rude and/or patronising when he has to debate with them.

And I hate the way he pronounces Katherine, he says it Kath-run. It winds me up to the extent where I can't watch him.

Chipstick10 · 04/05/2013 13:39

He is a bit of a bitchy queen but I like the way he expresses himself. Can't stand harperson or victoria no neck coren for that matter, her smugness makes me squirm.