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To be a bit upset by our neighbour re our cat?

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Catonthemove · 22/04/2013 15:04

So, our elderly neighbours have always loved our cats, given them affection and company when we are at work and especially since our dc came on the scene. As far as we are aware, until recently, our remaining cat (one died recently) stayed in the garden, might have had a few cat biscuits or some ham, but basically came in at night and to eat.

Our neighbours are lovely, have been kind to our children and given them Christmas gifts and birthday cards.

Sadly, last year the gentleman of the couple died and his widow has been lonely since, despite having family who visit frequently and help, and neighbours who really do look out for each other, there's a huge unfillable hole in her life. We'd become aware that our dcat had started to go in and increasingly be fed there and turned a bit of a blind eye as both cat and neighbour were happy.
On Saturday, dh noticed a new collar on the cat and a magnetic key tag on it to open a cat flap. We assume our neighbour put it on. Initially, I felt okay, but now I kind of feel she should have at least asked first. If I were being really honest, I think our cat is being effectively adopted without asking us.
I am not sure what I'd say if our neighbour tried to formalise the arrangement. We've had her since a kitten, she's twelve and were all fond of her. On the other hand, she's not mad keen on the dc and I don't have as much time for her as I did Pre dc. Financially, we feed her and pay pet insurance and for jabs, flea treatment and worming - the insurance alone is £25 per month.
Aibu to be a bit narked? And what should I do about it whilst maintaining a supportive relationship?
Final and relevant point is dneighbours old cat was someone else's and "adopted" them.

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Catonthemove · 22/04/2013 17:41

No-I don't accept that actually. We feed her, when she comes in at night we stroke her and have her on our laps. We take her to the vet, get her vaccinated and wormed. We pay insurance so that we don't neglect her medical care if she gets poorly. Taking in a neglected cat is one thing. Feeding a cat that isn't yours and then inviting it into your home is another. Admittedly our cat enjoys the quiet life. But neglect is too strong. Dh's gran had a cat that used to visit and she used to feed it. We had to tell her to stop because the cat belonged elsewhere. And before we had cats, it was really tempting to feed other people's that would turn up at our door rubbing round our legs. But the golden rule of cats is they go where the food is. So you don't feed one that isn't yours.

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Catonthemove · 22/04/2013 17:43

Sorry-that was to kitten soft. I just don't accept the neglect thing. The only thing that we've done is have children who the cat doesn't like all that much and so she stays away until they're in bed.

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JamieandtheMagicTorch · 22/04/2013 17:44

Cat

I was replying to a poster above. I don't think you've neglected your cat.

JamieandtheMagicTorch · 22/04/2013 17:44

X post! Smile

JamieandtheMagicTorch · 22/04/2013 17:47

Cats

My cat is 17 now, and absolutely in the centre of family life- sleeps on the DCs debs, sits on their laps etc. As she has aged, she's mellowed. My DCs have always been kind to her, but she just didn't like noise and smells really.
She is costing a lot in vets bills and time (hyperthyroidism, meaning trips to the vet for blood tests), so it isn't just about money, as you say.

The more I think about it, the more a trip to a rescue centre seems like an idea.

JamieandtheMagicTorch · 22/04/2013 17:48

beds not debs

YoniRaver · 22/04/2013 17:49

I dont get this stuff people spout about 'a cat will go where it wants'. Cats will go where they are fed and no one should be feeding a cat that isnt theirs

Of course a cat will keep coming back if you feed it stupid twatty neighbour of mine

WTFisABooyhoo · 22/04/2013 18:03

I dint get this ' the money is ok if it is our cat' that doesmt make sense, how does the cat living else where mean you can afford it less than if its at your house? Confused

Anyway, if you are going to stop paying health insurance for it ( and so essentially no longer taking responsibility fir his health) then at the very least i think you should offer him properly to your neighbour. Otherwise what will happen is he will get sick and neither of you will have made provisions for his care. It isnt fair to let the cat suffer. If he were mine and i was letting him go live officially somewhere else i would want to know who was going to be responsible for the vet fees and j would want an agreement with that other person that they knew absoloutely the cats health was now their responsibility. If they refused id still pay fir insurance si at least if he got sick, he could get care, regardless if who was saying they owned him

Twitterqueen · 22/04/2013 18:07

Give her a kitten!

Catonthemove · 22/04/2013 18:08

Of course it makes a difference. Do you generally pay insurance for pets that you don't own? And if we stopped paying it would be after a difficult conversation with neighbour about her taking on the cat. Hopefully with transfer of policy.

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DrHolmes · 22/04/2013 18:15

No WTF, it's not that she can't afford if the cat is at her neighbours, it's that why the hell would she pay it if she doesn't get to see the cat and have it as her pet? If it's her pet yes she has the money to fund the insurance, if she doesn't have it as a pet then she shouldn't have to pay the insurance or food or litter for that matter.
The OP does want her cat but she is in the predicament that they were nice neighbours, one died so now she feels guilty that this cat is keeping her company. But the neighbour shouldn't have had the audacity to start reeling the cat in using cupboard love, buying it a collar and not even mentioning it to the OP. That is so bloody rude.

What are you going to do OP?

MammaTJ · 22/04/2013 18:16

WTF, why is it so hard to understand that if the OP is not getting the pleasure from the cat sitting on her lap or generally being around, she does not want to expense of it either.

Maybe this will help. I have a beautiful dog, I know you will never meet her, but I could do with some help paying her insurance, when will you be able to send me the first instalment?

Crinkle77 · 22/04/2013 18:34

If the cat is stuck outside most of the day I am not surprised it has been going else where

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 22/04/2013 18:35

The whole street could be feeding the cat but this particular neighbour has upped the ante by putting a collar on it with a cat flap tag device.

In the old days no-one had pet insurance so it may well be the thought that OP is shelling out insurance (as well as cat food and jabs etc) hasn't crossed the neighbour's mind.

I'd talk it over with the lady so that in the event the cat falls ill, it's clear who seeks a vet and pays for treatment.

PlasticLentilWeaver · 22/04/2013 18:41

Those catflaps aren't cheap either! Definitely have a word with her about her stealth adoption of your cat.
Remove the collar, as without it, the cat can't get in her house anymore.

Offer to take her to local Cats Protection, or similar to choose one of her own to put the collar on.

MammaTJ · 22/04/2013 18:42

Crinkle the cat was not stuck outside all day but chose to be outside all day. It has a cat flap that it is free to use at any time.

chansondumatin · 22/04/2013 18:42

If you want to keep your cat I think the new collar has to go, and that you have to have a polite chat with the neighbour about it, just to make clear where the boundaries lie. I'd go mad if one of my neighbours tried this kind of caper with my cats.

Can you not replace it with a collar of your own, and possibly a name/address tag too, as a means of subtly asserting your ownership? Your cat, your collar.

MissBeehivingUnderTheMistletoe · 22/04/2013 18:58

I suppose that I am one of the cat snatchers Hmm Grin Our neighbours cat moved in with us. In my defence - I didn't feed it or let it in - but it used to undertake raids through the cat door and despite being escorted home used to come back. I wasn't too keen to be honest as he had a bit of a dicky bladder and a skin complaint and upset my existing cats but he was very persistant. The neighbours decided to move and asked if they could leave the cat as he was living with us. What a catch he was

Cats will just move out if there is something better on offer and I'm not sure there is anything you can do to stop it unless you're prepared to "up" your offer. I'd have a chat about ownership (and responsibility for healthcare) being handed over.

Hissy · 22/04/2013 19:08

I agree, remove the collar. Keep removing the collar.

HansieMom · 22/04/2013 19:11

You are having building work done soon? The cat will enjoy a safe haven next door. The cat does still come to visit you, right? The neighbor probably put the collar on so just this cat can enter, not other cats, or possibly possums or other critters.

Catonthemove · 22/04/2013 19:17

So, I think in the first instance I'm going to chat to my neighbours niece. She may not know about it or she may know all about it and be trying to persuade my neighbour not to do it. Dh's grab was very stubborn about it all. I think we'll say that we understand that neighbour is very attached to the cat and that actually, if neighbour wanted a conversation about properly owning her then we'd probably say yes. But also explain that we actually take cat ownership seriously that taking her on would involve medical responsibilities as well as food and affection. That will be a tricky conversation as I know they're a bit worried about how neighbour is managing but if I don't I think I'm going to get more and more annoyed and say something I regret. I'm already annoyed tbh. And I do care about our neighbour and our cat which is why the decision making is so difficult.

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OhLori · 22/04/2013 19:46

"Narked" seems a funny word. You don't sound emotionally upset about it though, it seems more like your nose has been put out of joint.

Do you really want the cat? Wink.

If not, you could ask your neighbour if she wants to adopt the cat, as you noticed she had put a new collar on it. Then tell her you have medical and insurance details you will pass on to her, etc.

Its easy to say "go to a cat shelter" but I guess people build relationships with whatever / whoever is around them.

Its a difficult situation, but it would be a shame if you fell out with neighbour over it. I am sure it could be resolved amicably ...

OhLori · 22/04/2013 19:50

p.s. I'm not condoning what your neighbour did though.

WTFisABooyhoo · 22/04/2013 19:58

Does nobody read the entire post anymore? Just see the bits you want to.

Sparklingbrook · 22/04/2013 20:01

If Sparkling Cat chose to live next door I would be devastated. Sad Your situation is really difficult, but if the cat is getting food there it will keep going.