to think that people who use cloth nappies act superior to those who use disposables?

[DearJohnLoveSavannah]

I think I've just noticed this more because apparently it's National Nappy Week right now.

I have a friend of a friend who is always putting up photos on FaceBook about cloth nappies - such as the birth to potty ratio of how many disposable nappies one baby goes through, or the latest cloth nappy she has just bought.

When she was at the same children's birthday party she gave people a demonstration on how to use them too.

I think it is fine to educate people and promote being more eco friendly, but she does it with such superiority that I feel if I got a disposable nappy out I would be extremely judged.

I have another friend who is like this, but less extreme.

Very willing to be told AIBU - because I'm just basing this one two people.

(Also sorry for posting in AIBU twice in one day)

Eh she said presuming changing regurlarly and not 4 times a day :-/

Eh,read her post and not 4 times a day as some disposable users on here would (eek)
Shes asserting her changes are more frequent and (eek) disposable arent as frequent
:-/

If something is costly you try to use it less often, hence waiting until the nappy is full. Nappies should, by best practice, be changed at every pee to reduce irritation. People try to get their money's worth. Not all, but some. Like she said

And you know the change habits of disposable users based on what?oh i know
Zippey dodah.you're speculating to prove a point.you have no empirical data
Well i use disposables,the cost isn't onerous to me.i change as required.often 3hourly

I know the change habits of disposable nappy users based on my personal experience. I used disposables for the first 5 months. I know pampers at best price in bulk cost approximately 14p a nappy. 8-9 changes a day, for 5 months. Every 14p counts when you can't afford it

your limited experience of pampers users is at best anecdotal,at worst biased
Clearly you have an agenda,that the cloth bummed community change more?

My experience is not limited to pampers. I found all disposables brands costly, in the sense of use vs value.

No, simply that there is nothing to lose by changing more.

Youre a nappy change statistician.gee we really need that data. Word out,yea
I presume you've read summer-world post(eek). Generalising about 4xday change
Any comment on that 4xday generalisation?or will that one slip:-/

@ParadiseChick I wonder how different your experience is from that of our mothers/grans who used cloth nappies? Some had washing machines and others certainly didn't. Also, every 3 days? If you have a well-ventilated area that's ideal I suppose...you make it sound so easy!

You don't want facts, data, reviews or advice. You want an argument over nappies

Word out

Word,is im challenging you and summer,on the 4xday generalisation.that you're sidestepping
Youve convinced yourselves that you change,care more.more than 4xday disposable users
And if you or summer make (eek) sweeping generalisation i will dispute it. Word

As someone who uses them, you tend to get a bit obsessed by them for some reason (cute ones, pretty ones, animal print ones etc). I have no right to be superior as I use disposables at night and for going out so probably about 50/50 in the end. I am always keen to talk about the benefits though, as I think it's easier than people think, saves loads of money, and the environmental impact of disposables is just huge.
ice I've never heard of that, how fantastic, I'd quite like some pooey nappy decking in my garden!

I get what you mean op. I have a friend who I quite like who is vegan. So many posts on fb are about how various studies show vegan is brilliant and omnivore diets are horrendous. Maybe she's right but I do get fed up with it being shoved in my face so often.

I was a cloth nappy user and was not inclined to broadcast it as I felt it was my personal choice and really didn't want to preach at people. I chose to bottle feed my babies and really hated breast feeding moms telling me how fo r mula was so bad and breast was great. I would have felt like one of those moms if I had started to try to convert people to using cloth.

There is no contact with shit, it goes in the toilet where it can be treated.
Does it fly there by itself? What an odd thing to say. I don't think there's any way to avoid contact with shit if you have children. Unless you implement the 'never change a diaper' method of my asshole ex.

Since you're obviously the expert, what could I have done - other than following washing instructions to the letter and being obsessed to an unhealthy degree about not letting her sit in a wet diaper - to avoid the rash my newborn daughter got from cloth, which was so severe it would bleed?
She just happened to have exceptionally sensitive skin. Continuing to use cloth in that situation would have definitely qualified me for bad mother status.

Also, she wouldn't breastfeed and refused to have anything to do with slings or carriers other than the Baby Bjorn.
As crunchy hippy-mamas go, I was an utter failure.

We all deal with shit in different ways. I don't have time to clean shit so chuck it out. Other wish to wash it away. Each to their own and I think all parents want their child potty trained ASAP for obvious reasons.

Anyone who gets hung up on what others are doing with shit that comes from a vessel that isn't their responsibility needs to have another child or find some other hobby to occupy their time.

Whether it's disposable nappies, ff, or meat-eating they are preaching against
, try this line, adapted from Oscar Wilde:

I won't change my mind so will you please change the subject

Im a cloth nappy lover. I probably was a bit evangelical and smug. I loved my DDs big cloth bum. Im also the sucker that bought the "pretties" In fact I still have around 15 I cant bear to part with even though dd has been dry for nearly a year. I can totally put My OOAK Bare rumps in her memory box however weird that is.

I started for environmental and cost reasons. Then I learned to make them. Safe to say the money thing was not so successful and has lead to a rather strange minky addiction and a rather expensive embroidery machine.........

I also use washable san pro and have found since switching I have lighter less painful periods.

Yabu to generalise on knowing 2 cloth nappy families. Some of us don't exactly advertise the fact that we use them (usually cause of the negative attitudes people have shown on this thread!) I really don't care what anyone else uses on their baby. People using phrases like "I've got better things to do with my time than scraping shit" or making generalisations about the type of person using cloth are just as bad as someone using cloth sneering. Both are trying to make out they are better than the other. And both are doing this because of their personalities not because of their parenting choices.

I always wanted to use reusables from my first pregnancy but was put off by both my DGM and DM who are firmly in the disposables are best group. They didn't understand why I wanted to (their words) 'make life hard for myself', they went on about how busy and tired I would be with the baby and wouldn't have time to think about washing his nappies. I also felt super confused with all of the terminology and different types of nappies- wraps and terries, all in ones, pocket nappies and inserts- say what?!

So I got by buying those massive boxes of pampers wipes and nappies from Asda. Eleven months later I was sick to the back teeth of the cost and was pregnant with DC2, the thought of having to buy two lots of nappies and wipes filled me with utter dread. At the time DH hadn't yet been promoted to management either so we were on a fairly low income. So I did some research, asked a couple of my FB pals who used cloth a few questions about what it all meant and what the best types were and just plucked up the courage to buy some.

Cost me £250 to kit two DC out with pocket nappies, reusable wipes and liners and I got a few wraps and terry nappies off eBay for DC2 when she was a small baby. Used them from day one with her, she's never been in a disposable and neither has DC3. I did spend a bit more on DC3 nappies because I got addicted to buying Tots Bots... Sigh.

Never looked back, best decision I made. Sometimes a PITA putting the wash on and then hanging them out to dry but I wouldn't go back to wasting money on disposables for anyone. Plus I've made about £100 so far selling nappies that were incompatible with DC3 on eBay and am sitting on a huge tots bots collection I'm expecting to make £250ish from because I have limited edition ones.

I was smug about it for a while but now it's just a normal part of life, I don't even think about their nappies really until someone notices and comments on how cute it is. I'm not one to lecture though, seems hypocritical given I did used to use them.

" p. I was talking to someone else about how many nappies the continence service provide per day and she just jumped in and lectured away. "

Now that really is a scandal. Let me guess, four? I recently found out how many products each service provided and was shocked, never occurred to me they'd limit something like that :(

You see pukkabo stories like yours are exactly why - without, I hope, turning into a full on Nappy Bore just to irritate people who think like scottishmummy - I was always happy to chat about cloth nappies & pass on spares.

Lots of people would like to give them a go but are put off by their mums or whoever; disposable nappies have been around since 1948 according to wikipedia (in fact those 60odd years worth of nappies are all still around, trying & failing to rot...nice) so plenty of us have grown up in families that regard cloth with some suspicion.

& the initial outlay is a risk, if you dash out & buy dozens of brand new ones without test driving them...

So I was grateful to the Ebayer who sold me a couple of totsbots to try out, & liked to help other people out - if they asked me about them - by giving/lending spares so they could try them too. Some of those people then decided to start using cloth, others didn't take to them & simply gave them back/passed them on to someone else.

Actually, thinking about it, I've never criticised a disposable user in my life, but I've had the odd unsolicited snide comment about cloth. I have no idea why they irritate some people so much; you'd think some of them were sitting in a wet one themselves...

I challenged the change 4xday generalisation.that cloth bum changed more
Shes convinced herself clothbum change more,care more.more than 4xday disposable users
That was so smugly satisfied,a cloth bummed baby is changed more.must be better parent compared to the slackness of disposable users

NiMh - I do not care for the accusation that I didn't change my child's nappy enough. I certainly was changing it more than four times a day with plenty of nappy free time on top.

I can understand why people like using reuseables, I can understand why people like using disposables. I don't understand why people need to battle over it

Johnathan Porrit used disposables nappies, that was all the argument i needed.