To think that it's perfectly fine to be pleased someone is dead when they caused such a lot of harm?

[LoopaDaLoopa]

So, all these people saying it is inappropriate to speak ill of the dead are all positive and nice about Pol Pot are they? Stalin? Hitler?

Just because someone dies does not make them a nice person.

And did you feel sorry for Saddam Hussain's family? Or did it not cross your mind?

Grinkly, she wrecked peoples lives, fact.
And its not the majority, unfortunately a lot of the people who don't vote are the ones who were affected the worst by her

No we didn't and the majority did not vote for her but against her. Just the way our system works.

What wrecked people's lives was losing their jobs and not having anything to replace it with, which is what happens alot today, eg machines and automation of factories replacing people. Who's to blame now??

Grinkly my main problem is that she declared war on travellers causing the police to come and smash up our homes and piss all over kids toys, abuse everyone and make people lose their homes etc. A very heartless woman who literally and in her own words declared way on a whole group of human beings, the effects still being seen today in the cases I'm talking about

This is overlooked a lot but still as disgusting and sick as ever

Also she obviously hated poor people, selling council houses off too cheap etc.

Sorry, MsBella, don't remember this.

Obviously I remember how I was affected, eg shortage of food, missing school (which I was quite happy about but probably seriously affected my results), dead people being unburied.

I suspect most on these threads are angry because of the story rather than the facts.

Was selling council houses to their inhabitants a sign of her hating poor people?

banging on about Thatcher is just bandwagonism. It will change nothing.

But the poor people could own their own homes!! Why is that bad for them? I remember neighbours getting their coundil house at less than half what we paid for a similar 3 bed semi because they had lived in it for 7 years ?? Huh.

Poor people couldn't afford to buy them. People with money could and it took away council homes from people who need housing

People will never agree. I think she was the greatest PM this country has ever had, but some people think she was the devil incarnate.

Msbella, ime only people who lived in council houses could buy them (mind you I have recently heard of family moving in on elderly council tenants so they can take it on after death of elderly person).

Not everyone in a council house is poor, the poor ones couldn't afford it and the ones who could afford it shouldn't really have bought them because it takes a council house away from someone who needs one

not long ago someone won the lottery and bought their council house, a homeless family on the waiting list could have had it if he didn't buy it

MS Bella you are obviously still angry ...but Margaret Thatcher did not piss on your toys...the police who evicted you did....I'm assuming you were a child when this happened...
Did they not give you notice that you were being evicted? I don't know a lot about what happened with travellers -but seem to remember something about travellers being on land and the land owner not being happy with it...a bit like I wouldn't be happy if someone pitched a tent in my back garden...
We have a travellers site near me ...they seem to be doing all right - most of the buildings look attractive - chalet-like with garden walls ...local people are a bit upset because the site is on agricultural land and it keeps expanding rapidly ...no one else would be allowed to build there ...but then again - the land owner is happy (but rumour is because when they move on the land will be considered residential not agricultural and he can build on it... which may or may not be right)
And people buying council houses ...they had to be living in them for a number of years before they could buy them...they weren't just up for grabs for anyone with money...and you couldn't just get a council house - they were scarce even then...and even now you can't force someone to move out of a council house - they are a home for life...if they couldn't buy them they could just stay living in them paying a nominal rent...any way I think you can't buy them anymore...
I think she was misunderstood in lots of ways - her view was if the rich make money (and pay taxes in this country and buy things made in this country) ...the poor will also get richer ...everyone could gain...
It was not under her leadership that the divide between the rich and poor in this country widened...the politicians who allowed that to happen are the ones that people should have issue with

Nope unlucky there wasn't any of that
And she personally declared war on travellers making it directly her fault

MsBella, what nonsense. What legislation did she pass against travellers? Unless you mean the Public Order Act? Yep, she didn't think Stone Henge was suitable for "traveller development" because it was a national monument.

MsBella, what nonsense. What legislation did she pass against travellers? Unless you mean the Public Order Act? Yep, she didn't think Stone Henge was suitable for "traveller development" because it was a national monument.

MsBella, tell us exactly what she did against travellers (as opposed to what local councils may or may not have done).

She declared war on them which is widely known actually. And stonehenge is what I'm talking about yep, our homes smashed up and lives ruined, there were never any problems before she declared war on travellers

I think a number of people are being unnecessarily rude to MsBella.
The Public Order act whilst replacing the Common Offences act, had a number of parts added by Douglas Hurd which were very detrimental to travelling communities.

As a child, we would picnic regularly at Stonehenge. It wasn't fenced off at all. Just saying.

It was the poor from backgrounds not too different from hers whom she helped. She gave them life chances rarely had before. If they had lived in a council house for decades for the first time they could get on to the property ladder. She gave them hope and they moved from a rootless renting class to having some capital and equity. They could buy them for very very low sums. It helped rather than damaged the poor.

She had been a lawyer. She believed in the rule of law which is something most British people support. If travellers do not obey the law then they should be evicted. There cannot be one rule for them and another for the rest of us.

She represented opportunities and she gave them to all. She was a breath of fresh air. She came from relative humble home compared say to people like Blair and the Mllibands who came from a life of privilege. She broke the mould and showed that hard work can get people on particularly women. She had so many admirers she was voted in again and again.

We need her like again.

MsBella is right that she declared war and was ruthless to certain areas. that is what people can't forgive or forget. do you think it is just coincidence that the areas that suffered the most were those that didn't vote for her. She was vindictive and happy to sacrifice those that didn't vote for her for those who did. I know she was great for many, mostly those who didn't have their jobs and communities suffer the way others did. I moved to the south in the 90's and the amount of jobs and wealth was staggering, people had no clue what it was like in areas where industry had been decimated.

Her background was not poor. FFS! Boring stolidly lower middle class. Definitely not by any stretch poor.

Lots of people, rich and poor, live in rented accommodation today.

Lots of people say renting is dead money, so shall we force private landlords to sell at a discount to their tenants?

yes, have to laugh at her 'humble' beginnings.