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Sick of having to be Politically Correct over nearly everything

585 replies

SickofThisCountry · 04/04/2013 01:47

Dont want to cause some big debate but is anyone else on here getting sick to the back teeth of having to watch their p's and q's through fear of offending every tom, dick and harry.

OP posts:
joiemecconue · 04/04/2013 14:28

Isn't Cotswolds already in the north?

kungfupannda · 04/04/2013 14:30

No. Nothing below Scotch Corner counts as the north. Everyone else is "bloody southerners"

[northerner in edge-of-Cotswold-exile]

Lottashakingoinon · 04/04/2013 14:30

Isn't Cotswolds already in the north?

Grin
joiemecconue · 04/04/2013 14:32

anything in the middle and up or across is 'north' or 'other'

[graduate of Watford Gap style geography course]

Pagwatch · 04/04/2013 14:33

The question of SN/naughty isn't really an issue unless you think SN is the same as being naughty.

If there's is a debate about behaviour in schools it has to cover
A) nt children being naughty and what sanctions are appropriate
and
B) children with SN being naughty and what sanctions are appropriate
and
C) behaviour which may seem like naughtiness but is actually a behaviour caused by/as a result of SN and how you deal with that.

They are different. I have nt kids and a child with SN. If I tried to parent them all the same it would be a failure.

Pretending that all children can be treated in exactly the same way in school would be a failure.

How is talking about that PC gorn mad. Unless you refuse to believe that C) exists.

kungfupannda · 04/04/2013 14:33

Anyway, we're not allowed to say "northerners" anymore.

We have to call ourselves "Persons from an equitorially-challenged place-zone"

PC gorn mad, innit?

MadBraLady · 04/04/2013 14:34

OK _ have looked at the crime figures - on UKCrimeStats.com for our area
only the antisocial behaviour increased 4x (12 to 49)
violent crime only doubled (2 to 4)
burglary went from 1 to 13 - quite a rise
and vehicle crime went from 4 to 35 (almost 9 times),
robbery went from 0 to 2
and other crimes from 9 to 30..... in one month...

Oh boy. Right, I know almost nothing about statistics, but fortunately you know even less. These numbers are tiny, and at least two (violent crime and robbery) don't look like statistically significant rises at all. The burglary rate going up x13 could be the result of a single burglar gang arriving in your area for a spree - that's how reactive to micro-events these figures will be. All figures at the ward level are going to show wild outliers depending on highly local circumstances, that's why we add them up to arrive at an overall regional/national trend. It's only with bigger aggregated numbers, over a series of months (and taking into account seasonal fluctuations) that you can really start to spot trends, you can't just say "This number's bigger than that number, I'm done!"

I'm not even clear what you're saying these stats mean. What people have arrived in the area lately that you're willing to finger for these particular crimes? And have you taken your suspicions to the local constabulary?

and I did not ANYWHERE mention immigration

Erm. Actually I think you were the first person to mention it, right there. Though it is hilarious that you were clearly so intent on watching out for other people mentioning it that you managed to read a mention of it into something someone else said quoting you.

I'm out, this is like fish in a barrel with targets painted on them.

joiemecconue · 04/04/2013 14:34

Grin kungfu

Lottashakingoinon · 04/04/2013 14:35

But if anything the Cotswolds are slightly south of London! Grin

Don't get me wrong, I would love to be thought of as a northerner, or indeed a Londoner (which I am by birth...)

joiemecconue · 04/04/2013 14:37
Blush
kungfupannda · 04/04/2013 14:38

Prize to Mardybra for getting "wild outliers" into a post.

I was once involved in a case concerning a juvenile "gang" - in reality a group of friends who'd got a bit carried away about the idea of being "gangstas" and went on a rampage. They put robberies in their area up by 50% over the course of a few months.

An individual or small group can have a massive effect at local level - that's not a trend.

Lottashakingoinon · 04/04/2013 14:41

No need to blush joie If I didn't actually live here I would have a clue where the Cotswolds were either and I would care even less

And Mardy I luff you!

Pagwatch · 04/04/2013 14:41

I was once on a train when a skinny kid got on and, without any irony at all, shouted 'big up the Surbiton massive'

I don't know what reminded me but it is one of my fav moments ever

MadBraLady · 04/04/2013 14:42

polishes geek award shyly

TheNebulousBoojum · 04/04/2013 14:42

'I know there are a lot of SN children, I know there are a lot of kids who misbehave too - what I don't "get" I guess is why kids with SN never misbehave'

What a ridiculous thing to say.
One of the endless delights of my DS is working out which parts are AS and which parts are arsey teenager. Just like when he was younger, which behaviours were triggered by his SN and which were a direct effort to be an irritating little brother.
The people I know who are in a similar position recognise the dual nature of misbehaviour in their children, and are honest about it.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/04/2013 14:43

Yes. My DD is like an 8 year old sized toddler with autism.

That is fun sometimes.

Latara · 04/04/2013 14:46

The North is LONDON to me. I think the Cotswolds are up North.

But then i'm from Dorset.

kungfupannda · 04/04/2013 14:46

You're not thinking of the Pennines, are you, joie?

They're definitely in the equatorially-challenged place-zone. And there's a nice tea-room there.

joiemecconue · 04/04/2013 14:47

Is Royston Vasey in the Cotswolds?

joiemecconue · 04/04/2013 14:47

That's the place that springs to mind anyway.

Lottashakingoinon · 04/04/2013 14:47

Wash your mouth out Joie Grin

joiemecconue · 04/04/2013 14:49
Grin
ByTheWay1 · 04/04/2013 14:51

I do not read the Daily Mail .....

I just mentioned all the white/middle-class/male-female marriage stuff because that is actually "the norm" around here - sorry for living in "middle England"

I do not think SN is the same as being naughty.

Yes there was an itinerant group travelling through our area - they stayed for under a month, crime went up that month , they left, crime went back to normal levels - and has stayed that way... mmmmm yes - probably a complete coincidence... but it was nice seeing the local press tying themselves in knots trying to explain things in a PC way...

"The local constabulary" were very aware of where the increase came from.

And this thread is why I must get out more and mix with folks in RL rather than just be slagged off and told to get real and quote instances, whilst others tell me I was the first to mention immigration - ( Custardo did ask me "where did you get the immigration figures from" but hey ho - let's not let facts get in the way..)

seeminglyso · 04/04/2013 14:51

oh dear another one of the 'pc gone mad' crowd..however what a heartening thread..looks like your on your own today OP, why not check out some EDL websites, I am sure they are all sick of it and you will get the response you were hoping for.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/04/2013 14:55

Seriously, if you don't read the Mail, you should, as its articles would appeal to you.