To want some people to just stop and think sometimes

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How would you all like to have a life where day in, day out you are judged for existing and for doing your best for your family?

And then told to be grateful for it?

I've met some wonderful people here and I know that the vast majority of posters are decent.

But do some people really think that 'words on a screen' cause at the very worst tears?

Because when your whole life is filled with hatred, verbal and physical attacks then self harm and suicidal thoughts are also par for the course.

Just think about that.

Try to focus on the positive comments, and people that support you. It's easy for someone sat at home to type something they'd never say or even think in RL just to act as a wind up. Block those people out, you don't need their negativity in your life and you have to believe they are in the minority, as if not our country really is in a sorry state!

As you say you are doing the best you can for your family, which is all any of us strive to do, so stop beating yourself up (or listening to others) and be proud that you are keeping it all going in difficult circumstances.

The online interaction on here (with a completely unknown entity) is causing you hurt, if real life support isn't available at times/methods to suit then look into online support groups that are official and relevant to you. From personal experience I can recommend the Samaritans, you can email or call. They can email you back or call you, they can also suggest places to get more support from. [email protected] is the email

Pigs mummy...PPP should be free from these vile comments wherever she chooses to be online. It's not her that needs to be leaving MN.

I agree with Ballstoit and will pick up anyone who spouts disablist crap here or anywhere else.

Places like MN are a lifeline for those people who are carers. It can be very isolating.

I am not suggesting that she "leaves" MN but that she seeks some support from elsewhere whilst feeling so low. (self harm and suicidal thoughts).

More support is always good but I'd rather see the disablist nonsense driven off MN than Penelope.

The comments that have caused so much damage/hurt to her are from a completely unknown source (could even be a bored teenager?) so I am suggesting that PPP looks for some support from from an additional and more specific resource.

I too would to love to see "disablist nonsense" driven off MN but as its unlikely to happen in the next few minutes I wanted to offer PPP some additional support as she is feeling low right now. PPP best wishes x

PPP sorryyou are having a hard time, but the majority of people are decent. On an internet forum, there are bound to be some ignorant twunts.

YANBU. I don't know anybody who admits to being 'disablist' or a benefit basher in RL, but it's easy for cowards to wind people up anonymously on a forum. They must be very dim to not appreciate the power their ill thought out comments can have. I avoid any benefit threads because my best friend has a severely disabled dd, so she's unable to work and her ex partner hasn't paid maintenance since her dd was 18 - benefit threads just rile me. I would be happy to pay more tax if it contributed more to people who need it and less was wasted by our consecutive governments. Your daily routine is at least as important and valuable as any anonymous poster and I find it sad that a minority in our society see valuable carers and parents as an easy target. Don't let them get you down, op, they certainly don't represent the majority.

Christ... Seriously, are they bots or something? Several days now without even pausing?

MNHQ emailed me to reassure that they are keeping an eye on disablist views on here.

ps thanks MNHQ - as the parent of a disabled child that makes me feel better. Though I have never felt that MN tolerated such things.

It's not just disablism though it's the constant dehumanising if anyone living on benefits with sweeping stereotypes being slapped everywhere.

They HAVE to be bots.

Unfortunately they are not bots. Just not terribly bright, extraordinarily bigotted people who in fact do not have the courage to express their views in RL.

They have endurance, I'll give them tat. This latest space of attacks as been almost a week, churning out the same shit...

I believe that how a country treats those in need, and the vulnerable people in their midst, is a measure of how decent that country is. As such, my opinion of this government, of some of the press, and of some individuals, has plummeted.

PPP - I am sorry that you are feeling so bad at the moment. As someone who suffers from depression myself, my heart goes out to you, and I hope that you are getting the help and support that you need at the moment.

{{{hugs}}}

Well, unfortunately there are no laws against expressing fascist views, but there are laws which protect the rights of disabled people and which protect people against racism etc.

I also think that there will always be people who have vile views and morals no matter which government is in power. When Nick Griffin was on Question Time some years ago, I was disgusted at some posters on here who really showed themselves up in their true colours, even posters who apparently worked with disabled people.

PPP - dont go near the benefit threads. Stick to the fun/happy support areas. There still are some.

Why anyone thinks living on benefits is taking advantage of society still stumps me because there's no real choice in life is there? It's day to day living, hard to plan anything fun ahead.

Freedom is shot through.

In my home we are immensely lucky with health and good jobs. But still like the majority of people in our position - 3 months away from being utterly broke and possible loss of house. It happens to all walks of life. Should never be smug in an ivory tower cos it might smash to pieces.

I think everyone needs to remember that anyone at any time can suddenly become disabled through illness or accident.

Haven't seen your thread op but hugs.