To want some people to just stop and think sometimes

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How would you all like to have a life where day in, day out you are judged for existing and for doing your best for your family?

And then told to be grateful for it?

I've met some wonderful people here and I know that the vast majority of posters are decent.

But do some people really think that 'words on a screen' cause at the very worst tears?

Because when your whole life is filled with hatred, verbal and physical attacks then self harm and suicidal thoughts are also par for the course.

Just think about that.

There are few things worse than the stress of unemployment and not being able to pay bills. One of the first questions people often ask a stranger is 'what do you do for a living' so I can imagine always having to answer 'nothing' to that and facing constant judgement from people to be added blows when you're already down.

I know it's hard to ignore horrible, nasty, ignorant, judgemental fools who feel better by kicking you when you're at your lowest but just think about who these people are. They are ignorant bullies who need to look down on others in an attempt to feel better about themselves because there is nothing good about them to feel proud of. They find vulnerable people like yourself easy targets because the media have the excuses for irrational hate listed for them.

They're the scum. You're raising your kids and as long as you're raising them to be decent people and doing the best you can with what you have then your already better than those idiots.

PPP - I am upset too after reading those ignorant, wanky comments about disabled people. Some people are just emotionally unintelligent and nasty and there isn't anything we can do about it. You can report disablist comments though and MNHQ will remove them if they agree they are disablist.

I've been on MN for 10 years and most things don't bother me but some of those today have upset me too. I hope you're all ok xx

I haven't seen the thread you mention, OP. But I hate benefit bashing. I currently work full time and have a mortgage, but then so did my mum...before illness struck her down and she had to exist on meagre invalidity benefit under the last Tory government.

Did she want to be on benefits? No. Benefits are a safety net for people who are vulnerable or fall on hard times. This is the responsibility a decent society takes for its citizens in my view.

Of course there will be a few people who abuse the system. There are idiots in any walk of life. There are people in work who don't do their fair share and annoy colleagues. There are rich people who inherit their wealth and those who do nothing to benefit society, living abroad and avoiding taxation. This is not the majority of people in my view.

Anyway, don't really have a massive point except that while I don't need benefits now, I really appreciate the system because one day I might do. Or my friends or children might. Or anyone might. That's my feelings on it.

Just found the other thread and it is frightening to think that people like that exist in 2013. I'm actually quite scared that extremists will once again get a foothold in Europe as it seems it is quite easy to fool a lot of people into scapegoating a group of people for the problems we are facing.

Well the current government have succeeded in turning people against each other to try and stop us from looking at the money they waste in other areas like high speed trains and overseas aid.

YANBU OP

Big hugs xx

ParadiseChick no idea what you're mithering about but err....no they're not.

If you have a problem with anything I post, you might want to mention it on the relevant thread instead of making bizarre accusations on this one.

This could do with a bump...

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I'm hiding in here. I keep swinging between hiding the threads and not. Think I need to walk away, but that's how they get away with it, eventually everyone gets too tired of arguing and defending themselves that these idiots get to pat each other on the back thinking it proves they are right.

Hi PPP, I am really glad you posted, I read your posts on another thread, I wanted to PM you to say I don't think the way you feel many people do, I believe that the majority of people on benefits deserve the help they get and deserve more, I know how hard carers work and how much they take on.

I know it is hard at the moment, I know it feels like the whole country is against anyone on benefits but I promise there are people who still care about others.

I didn't PM you in case it wasn't wanted and the thread was full so couldn't post there so I am glad I got chance to say it here!

I am not and never have been on benefits, these changes don't affect me at the moment anyway!), but I really do care about how they will affect people and I care about how the language used is affecting people.

Seriously. You have to have something very wrong with you to be told that your posts are having a detrimental effect on someone and to then bullishly continue.

Appreciate it Yellow

Penelope, I think there's a whole lot of goaders and trolls about.

They are the scum. x

Yanbu some people are just cunts who don't even have the guts to act like cunts under their usual username but believe me this says much more about their intelligence and personal skills than it does about you.

Even when your arsey your not harsh

I've just read a thread you've been on PPP (don't know whether it's the one you're talking about), and agree with YouTheCat.

They're just on the wind up, and like the government are gunning for people at the most vulnerable time of their life.

Don't let them skew the way you see yourself and your situation, or the rest of 'us', most people know the truth and are compassionate

Is the purpose of MN not to allow parents to support each other through the tough times and help each other at others? Maybe we need to remind ourselves of that before tearing shreds out of each other?

Yes but the ones that claim carer benefits aren't actually human beings with feelings are they? So that's fine.

It's all our fault for breeding defectives and we should all just be in the gutter rather than being a waste of resources.

We're scum, our children should be euthanised and any of their undesirable behaviours should be hidden away. We should wear sackcloth and ashes and hide our defectives.

Definitely not the view of me, my family or my real life friends Penelo. Please don't think that most people walk around thinking such vile thoughts and have so little empathy.

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You shouldn't set any store by such total wankstains PPP.

The only others who do are fellow wankstains.

'Normal' folk see them for what they are.

PPP - I was saying on another thread how my traditionally Tory voting family changed their views drastically after my disabled daughter was born (especially my mum). It is interesting that it takes some people something like that to happen before they can see they are wrong.

However, I still have other irritating relatives who are insistant that there must be some job my dd will be able to do even though she's 11 years old, can't speak, can't wash or dress herself or feed herself. They are ignorant. Possibly they are trying to make me feel better but the reality is they don't have a clue. Some people, however really are just nasty.

Although MN is generally quite liberal with many very inteliigent posters, I think we should all remember that there are some posters on here who vote for the BNP. There was a thread about it years ago. It certainly opened my eyes to what some people are like.

Just want to say I think there were many or one under many names trolls on that thread and no decent person thinks how they do. They have only succeeded in showing themselves up to be igroant brainwashed sheep like bigots.

There are so many uncontrollable aspects to life that anyone cou ld end up needing the benefit saftey net. Even goady fuckers like those.

I think disabled people and carers had high hopes of Cameron, because they had a disabled son and he kept saying that he knew how hard life was for carers and the disabled.
But Cameron is a true blue Tory.

Best wishes to you all you lovely people.