To start a benefits "myth busting" thread so that I can link the thickos of Facebook to it

[MarmaladeTwatkins]

When they start moaning about how people on benefits can afford diamond shoes and other such items.

I'll start.

1. Housing benefit is mostly paid out to WORKING people. So all of this talk of going out and getting a job and buying their own home if they don't like the bedroom tax is a flawed argument.

My goat is a hard working goat, I have her hooked up to a tread mill and she powers the 50" plasma, she's allowed an hour off each day for milking.

Right so having bigots stalk you round the boards whilst HQ ignore your reports, you're supposed to just smile beatifically?

Indeed, Penelope.

Some reports seem to get taken more seriously than others.

My goat is disabled, like me. He has an arthritic kneee. I may have to claim GLA (goats living allowance) for him. Sad times have fallen upon us.

Some of the people on this thread are just talking nonsense. I have said I need to have some building work done in the garden and two local companies have not bothered to reply. To make sure that their argument stands up that there are NO jobs some on this thread say it because they dont want to work for me. They dont even know me!! I have never called them before!

And its South Bucks for anyone who thinks this place doesnt exist. Just within the M25 near Heathrow.

According to the most recent figures from the Office of National Statistics there are currently 6017 job seekers in your neck of the woods and 2504 available jobs (including part-time).

twofingers

didn't see that, I'm so slow. You made me and lol.
The goat posts are what keep many people going on these never ending benefit bashing threads.

Funny thing is, when they all first started I wasn't on welfare but TC and dh WTC since then I am now on welfare according to gov. I think there's alot of people who are still in denial they are on welfare benefits.

Maise.
Margo Ledbetter

Have they ever been seen in the same room?

Crash Does that mean you'll get an extra car for your goat? Maybe you should buy some more goats, you're onto something there!

That's a good point, TondelayoSchwarzkopf.

Same can be said for me and Batman.

I am hoping my goat will be eligible for the HR mobility but he does have 3 other legs and now GiG is being introduced, I bet he won't be eligible for anything. :(

re. the bedroom tax
how the fuck are people supposed to downsize when the tory scum (I.E. thatcher) sold off all the council houses and stopped new ones being built

You could always break the legs... He can't talk, they don't need to know!

mx5 They will have to move to private which means their HB claims will likely go up and they would have to top up as well.

Not going to work, is it?

Faster would you mind Reposting your link please, there's too much going on on the thread, or better pming me it?

Thanks.

There should be a goat in the Bounty pack. The scrounging single mums could go out to work if they had a nanny.

Here you go Rhonda

www.esf-works.com/themes/families-and-households/direct-methods-of-outreach

I think you only get a goat if you are entitled to free school meals, free prescriptions and some other benefits. I don't think everyone is entitled.
I didn't get one in my bounty pack. But my youngest is 9 now, so think it may be before goats.

Thanks sock off to look.

More than.

Stop telling lies ten years ago you got a goldfish in your bounty pack and you know it.

Sock

The link talks about outreach to generations of unemployed but shows a dear old lady in what looks like a niace area of town
So where are all these families then?
I live near to this area and this part of the NW does have areas with higher unemployment, but the people with multi generations of unemployed are in small pockets, i.e in most areas a few houses. At the most in our town there is an estate with one street of this type of family.
Anybody who is still insisting there are significant numbers need to do their homework.

Sorry that just SAYS households with many generations of worklessness - there is no details of empirical research, how they are defining worklessness, how many households they are speaking of, etc...

It's a bit like me saying I'm going to go knock on doors of fat people, it's just about as valid.

M
Anyone interested in some actual validated proper research taken seriously by academics and peer reviewed etc, carried out by a recognised body, may want to read this...

www.jrf.org.uk/publications/cultures-of-worklessness

FOr the record, I think the community animator approach (which is what this is) is a good one, but this advertising for a project is NOT a piece of robust empirical research.

Sock cross post there.

By the way, only top part of last post to you.
My dd is 9 though not 10. I think we were between goldfish and goat. Oh I know we just got the free photo shoot. The single parents got a monkey to remind them of the feckless father

But of course you need to be able to understand about the validity of sources to get that

skinnywitch - many people have the perfect planned family with seemingly the perfect partner in the perfect financial circumstances.

Then one of them loses their job.
Or one of them becomes seriously ill, or disabled.
Or one of the planned children is ill or disabled and needs full time care.
Or Mr perfect turns into Mr Fists and Mrs Perfect has to leave in a hurry with just the kids and the clothes on their backs
Or Mr Perfect runs off with Mrs (or Mr) Betterthanperfect.
Or myriad other potentially horrendous scenarios.

Planning is all well and good, but life happens.

rondajean.

I had forgotten about jrf and used to read many reports from here during uni days. Many thanks, I have kept this.