To start a benefits "myth busting" thread so that I can link the thickos of Facebook to it

[MarmaladeTwatkins]

When they start moaning about how people on benefits can afford diamond shoes and other such items.

I'll start.

1. Housing benefit is mostly paid out to WORKING people. So all of this talk of going out and getting a job and buying their own home if they don't like the bedroom tax is a flawed argument.

Maisie you do realise that your average person looking for a job won't have the skills to rock up and offer to put up your extension? The builders you have contacted are probably very good and for that reason will already have their diarys filled for the next couple of months or so

It's not as if your local authority staff who have been laid off can follow plans and build extensions with NO experience

Someone on this thread have stated there are no jobs. I come on saying I have some work. I cannot get anyone to do it. I have tried to pick local people. I thought they would have committment to the job - they clearly dont.

And this has everything to do with the recession and joblessness, these could be the people throwing in the towel and then claiming benefits because they say there is no work!

Rhonda - I linked upthread to some contradictory research in the Wirral.

Oh and your opinions make you sound like a nasty vile pisspoor excuse for a human being who has spent hours practically following another poster around making vile offensive comments.

That poster used to be a higher rate tax payer until circumstances beyond her control caused her life to change shockingly.

Your a bully who needs to grow up.

Great post dawndonna's DD. You show a level of maturity that is beyond your years and some of the posters on this thread could learn a lot from you. I have a 4 year old son who is physically disabled and posts like yours give me hope that he will learn to defend himself against the idiots.

Precisely, so why not start a thread about it, Maisie, and then people might have some idea of what to advise.

It really is not relevant to this thread.

Maisie, there are no jobs on the job board to be filled.

You are contacting people already in employment to do a job which they are turning down, presumably because they have enough work already.

Do you understand the difference?

Would you like my unemployed 56 year old neighbour to come and build your extension?

I mean shes only been looking for a job for months after getting made redundant. I'm sure she can slap a few bricks together.

Who said it was an extension. I need two shed's/summerhouse taken down and one put in its place as replacement. Stop making excuses for them not even bothering to reply!

You cannot say there are no jobs and 100's applying for one role and when I come on saying I have some work and my two local companies cannot even be bothered to reply to start to make excuses as to why they havent contacted me!

"genuinely disabled"

I hate seeing people say that, define the meaning of genuinely disabled when it comes to benefits please?

Maisie, I think quite a few people have already pointed this out to you, but here it is again in simple terms:

1. You need some building work done and have contacted two building firms.
2. There are lots of unemployed people who cannot find work.
3. These two facts are not connected in any way. The unemployed people in section 2 probably do not have the necessary skills and qualifications to build your extension and - unless you advertised in the national press, of course - are probably quite unaware that you can provide work for someone.

Now can you please stop going on about your extension?

just because we cannot control all of life, it does not mean we shouldn't take responsibility for the things we can.

listening to some posters, its like we are rubber ducks bobbing around on the ocean - completely random, with no personal autonomy.

this obviously does not apply 100% to everything in life, but I find "The more I practice, the luckier I get"

[buggers off for dinner before being told this does not apply is absolutely every situation ever in the history of humans, like I hadn't previously stated that]]

They already have a job, What is wrong with you?

OMG Maisie and the builders, it would be if it wasn't so pathetic.

Maisie, a summerhouse!? Rich bastard.

YOu have some work but the builders you have contacted probably have their books full HOWEVER they are not in a position to take on more staff JUST for your one job

Even your average laid off builder who have previously worked for firms do NOT have the funds to set up their own building company - van, insurance, setting up accounts, heck even getting a bank loan to get set up is impossible

Ah, so there are jobs, it is economic sense to expand your company when you are literally not bothering to return calls because you are too busy!

We either have jobs or we dont....

Sorry. X post with many

Maisie, that isn't even building work. You need a carpenter for a purpose built one or a landscape gardener.

So basically, you've asked for quotes from the wrong people.

We are not entitled to any TCs even without my part time work and DPs overtime, yet would be entitled to HB... Private rents are utterly ridiculous. My house is cold and dated (no double glazing, 25+ year old kitchen, boiler, bathroom etc) yet our rent is £1500 per month.

We can't feed ourselves properly for at least a week every month and I regularly walk a 5 mile round trip to school and back twice a day when I can't afford the bus. We are far from feckless... I am
a graduate and DP has a job in an industry that people are clamouring to get into. I don't resent contributing to help people even more in the shit than us though, obviously, as I am not a cunt.

I'm getting an extension built shortly, I'll watch how they do it and then I'll pop around to yours maisie, I'm not doing anything at the moment and I'm cheap, I can only do short working weeks though as I'm on benefits and I wouldn't want to lose my carers allowance.

Fuck sake so it's a labourer you want NOT builders? I suggest your local handyman cos no builder is going to waste time doing that