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to be worried about Universal Credit

968 replies

idiuntno57 · 23/03/2013 20:21

I am in the lucky position of not needing to claim this but I am so worried about its implementation.

Its coming in in the Autumn and is going to be an online only, monthly, postdated payment. It will be paid to one adult in the family unit.

All well and did if you are god at managing your money, internet literate and in a stable relationship. But in the real world....

How are the most vulnerable in society going to have a chance with this?

Already the council tax changes are coming in and as far as I understand people are confused and shell shocked by it. UC is much bigger and no one is prepared.

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Domjolly · 24/03/2013 13:12

Have i missed somthing

You all seem to be talking aout somone who cant look after ther child and suggesting they should be put into care

ilovesooty · 24/03/2013 13:12

the poweresthat be gently tried to get people back to work with gentle work programs ect

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

minouminou · 24/03/2013 13:13

Heard that, Dom.....
It's not just the money, either. A friend of mine is kick-starting her career again after a gap. She's separated from the father of her youngest daughter, but he pays regular maintenance, which is great. However, what he doesn't do is prove to be reliable - he often doesn't turn up to look after his daughter so my friend can get on with some work/study, so she's not making the progress she should be.

Domjolly · 24/03/2013 13:13

wannabeEostregoddess actaully i would rather not

wannabeEostregoddess · 24/03/2013 13:14

Then your a rude individual who would rather rant about something than learn about it.

Domjolly · 24/03/2013 13:15

minouminou i was told to let ex have ds during the week as he didnt work i nearly lost my job in the first week because he didnt turn up on to of the days so i had to move him to day care

TheSecondComing · 24/03/2013 13:15

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Domjolly · 24/03/2013 13:16

wannabeEostregoddess yes uncalled for sorry Blush

idiuntno57 · 24/03/2013 13:16
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Domjolly · 24/03/2013 13:17

If a family is currently on 26k for housing cost and they get more in other benafits then its stand they are getting more than the 26k so it ends up more like 30k all in all

KatieScarlett2833 · 24/03/2013 13:19

Exactly TSC. The idiotic smuggery on here makes my blood boil.
Better hope you don't get sick, made redundant, left by partner, have a child who is disabled.......
Hmm

ilovesooty · 24/03/2013 13:19

The 26K includes everything, and it's the maximum payable. Most don't get anywhere near that.

Domjolly · 24/03/2013 13:19

TheSecondComing only a awful person would wish that i might be to the right but i wouldnt wish anyone oh cheats on them just awful

My dister ex who beat her up cheated even videoed him shagging the girl and sent it to her via video text

KatieScarlett2833 · 24/03/2013 13:20

It's £26K max.
Really, you need to learn about this stuff before posting crap.

Domjolly · 24/03/2013 13:20

ilovesooty most but not none

TheSecondComing · 24/03/2013 13:21

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minouminou · 24/03/2013 13:21

Hang on....TSC and KS.....you're not meaning me, are you?
I'm hoping I haven't come across that way, 'cos I'm not.

KatieScarlett2833 · 24/03/2013 13:21

No love, not you necessarily Smile

minouminou · 24/03/2013 13:23

The thing is, like has been said before, when people go on about benefits being too close to the minimum living wage and so on...this is because the minimum wage is bloody deplorable, especially with living costs going up so steeply.

But it's simpler to point the finger at claimants, because the economics (and the BS) is easier to understand.

bochead · 24/03/2013 13:23

I don't understand WHY the banks aren't being asked to repay the money they borrowed from the tax payers. I don't understand why Tesco's is getting free labour (via the efforts of benefits claimants) yet the small business owner from whence economic recovery has historically sprung during recessions is being hammered in increased high street business rates etc, etc.

I don't understand why we tolerate so many men (and quite a few women) just abandoning their own children. Giving the CSA real teeth and turning the propaganda machine onto those who refuse to pay child maintenance would eradicate a significant chunk of child poverty.

From where I'm standing our nation is run by a bunch of ideological zealots with no compassion, or sense of fair play whatsoever.

ilovesooty · 24/03/2013 13:23

Most acquisitive crime is linked to substance misuse. When people come out of prison they often have nowhere to live and no benefits in place. When they are accommodated they often end up in dodgy private lets. Landlords will be much less keen to accept HB tenants under UC. I'd like some of these people who seem to have so little understanding of the enormity of this to spend a week shadowing me in my job.

wannabeEostregoddess · 24/03/2013 13:23

No.

The actual cash in hand benefits are set in stone. Ok so a family with 15 kids might be getting £26k before housing, but how common is that?

A family of 4 will get, in their hand £12350 a year approx. Their rent is more than that and goes straight to private landlords. If they are making £26k per year then thats due to the housing costs.

KatieScarlett2833 · 24/03/2013 13:24

Nono TSC the kids can go into CARE, remember?
Which turns out so well for most and is paid for by fairy dust......

minouminou · 24/03/2013 13:24

Phew..... I'm anything but smug and secure about finances....it wouldn't take much to upset our apple cart.

TheSecondComing · 24/03/2013 13:25

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