to be worried about Universal Credit

[idiuntno57]

I am in the lucky position of not needing to claim this but I am so worried about its implementation.

Its coming in in the Autumn and is going to be an online only, monthly, postdated payment. It will be paid to one adult in the family unit.

All well and did if you are god at managing your money, internet literate and in a stable relationship. But in the real world....

How are the most vulnerable in society going to have a chance with this?

Already the council tax changes are coming in and as far as I understand people are confused and shell shocked by it. UC is much bigger and no one is prepared.

DV victim, but I suppose that's her fault too?

DomJolly

£26k is HOUSING COSTS. Another issue the government could tackle, but as the rich private landlords might lose out they wont ever address the cost of housing.

Oh and the majority of claimants are in work.

My sister has suffred dv she is now not legally not able to drive to to her vision

He puched her so hard damaged her eye socket
So i have had experince with this

No one is begruding a few years to get your slef together but not a life time whats weong with people saying you can have a helping hand but not forever

The biggest thing for my sister was getting bak her inderpance she went from relying on him to relying on the state she was most happy when she was dependant on her self

wannabeEostregoddess well thsta even worse so the other benfits are on top of teh 26k

so really people are netting 30-35k then all in all bloody nora this thing really needs to be tamed

Yup yup, Katie.
All it takes is a bit of bad luck.
I worry (I'm a freelance writer) about RSI, or some other debilitating condition that our insurance might not want to cover. Or DP getting ill, or one of the children getting ill, or our car ploughing into another, or the house getting hit by a meteorite (only semi-joking here!).

Then what? I'm self-motivated, well-educated, assertive, tenacious and all that jazz....one of the strivers.....but I won't be if I'm picking bits of space rock out of my skull, or if I'm sat by my son's sickbed 24/7, will I?

All we have is each other in this society, ultimately. The non-judgemental kindness of humanity....

I really wish this hadn't become a benefits bashing thread.

I am concerned about the implications of UC.

Its a disaster waiting to happen and we're all to busy squabbling to notice.

This woman is of very low intelligence. As most vulnerable people are. She can't work as the cost of childcare will wipe out all of her net gains and more. If she could get and hold a job, which is very unlikely in this economic climate given her capabilities.
As I said, she really is stuck and about to be very much worse off.

Katie, given your description of her, she doesn't sound fit to look after the children anyway. Why is her situation the state's fault?

These threads always shock me because sometimes I forget that there are such nasty people out there who begrudge people help when they are struggling. Should people be left to rot like in third world countries? Would you be happy seeing that here? I bet any one of the people on here who complain about people on benefits wouldn't turn them down if they ended up needing them though health problems, death and so on.

Oh FFS. She can look after her kids with support from SS. What do you suggest? Getting the kids taken into care because the mum has learning difficulties?
Who will be paying for that? Santa?

TheSecondComing

Thats one thing i agree with you i would like to see much more being done to make absent fathers pay there share

This is one thing i am 100% with you on

So she went out and reproduced asexually?
Should have stayed at home, then......

This woman with five children is one of the reasons for the welfare state, Moomoo. Because we're supposedly a civilised society that looks after the vulnerable despite their unfortunate situations and distasteful habits.

lahlee society and the state are not mutually exclusive. We all live in society. We all need a little more humanity for our fellow man.

No DomJolly.

A family of 4, two adults and two children, will get approx £950 per month to live on. Rent is ontop of that. So if they are breaking the £26k per year bracket then the rest is housing. So tax payers are lining the pockets of private landlords.

Tbh I think you should go educate yourself about the benefit system before you come on here mouthing off about it.

Errr no,we lived off a low wage and brought home less than not even bothering to work. I haven't berated anyone for claiming anything they've been entitled to. I've just said that one day it will end and you need the foresight to see that and plan accordingly.

I am awlays shocked how many mothers wouldnt need benafits if there ex partners paid there fair share i my self had to pay for child care back in the day whiest the ex sent his new child to private school and i was yold i could have £7 a week

That's fine if we can afford it, but our country is fucked, we're not too far off going completely bust like Greece and you say that people should be entitled to more than £26k off the state? It's fucking madness. We cannot afford it.

It's not as black and white as all that, Moomoo. Whoever said her situation is the state's fault? What's the point of that question?
She's in the situation, the children exist now, we're meant to civilised, we should look after her, and help her to look after her children so they all stay together.

Fucking hell.
Sparta wasn't actually that great a place to live, you know.....let's not get back to it.

this is going to cost the state more than it saves in the long term

wannabeEostregoddess why dont you if a family is currently on 26k for just houseing and they are getting other benefits it will come to more than 26k wont it

Iam not talking what will be i am talking aout what is happening

So what will happen to the kids?
Should they become beggars on the street? Turn to crime?
Or go into care which costs the taxpayer far more than paying their parent to feed and house them?

Read my post. Actually process the words ffs.