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To think these school rules are OTT?

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greenandcabbagelooking · 06/03/2013 08:19

The Tesco store on X road is out of bounds to pupils in uniform, including before and after school.

Pupils may not eat or drink in school uniform on public transport or whilst walking.

So DD can't grab me a loaf of bread in Tesco on her way home, or have a banana on her walk home. Are schools allowed to dictate what pupils do in their own time like this?

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Jengnr · 06/03/2013 17:35

They're just as likely to be in groups. Teenagers roam in packs.

Our local Tesco doesn't ban kids in uniform (if it does it's very ineffective) and there's no problems. It seems this rule has come from the school and it's totally OTT and out of order imo.

Fillyjonk75 · 06/03/2013 17:43

greenandcabbagelooking

Time to teach them to question authority and that stupid rules are to be ignored.

atthewelles · 06/03/2013 17:48

I would presume that Tesco have been complaining to the school about gangs of pupils behaving badly in the store and the school have now said that they don't want kids in uniforms going in there, as they can be traced back to the school meaning the school principal ends up getting dragged into issues regarding how the children are behaving out of school hours. (which seems to be what a lot of posters are getting annoyed about on here). Likewise the eating on the street rule is probably to reduce the amount of calls she gets from members of the public complaining about kids from the school throwing papers around, littering residents' gardens, sitting around on people's walls eating burgers and crisps instead of goiing straight home because they're hungry and need to get something to eat.
She is, quite rightly, trying to remain uninvolved in this kind of stuff by basically saying 'don't bloody do it while in uniform because if you do people start trying to make it my problem.'

KitchenandJumble · 06/03/2013 18:05

I think rules of this nature are petty, ridiculous, and unnecessary. When I was a child one of the schools I attended was across the road from a grocery store. At one point the store banned all children in the hour immediately after school. It wasn't long before the rule was changed, as the school lost a huge amount of business.

I am also reminded of Nicola and Miranda, eating their crisps in the cathedral close, "virtuously mindful of the rule that while wearing school uniform, food must not be eaten in the street." Or words to that effect, I don't have my copy of Attic Term to hand at the moment.

Floggingmolly · 06/03/2013 18:14

Time to teach them to question authority and that stupid rules are to be ignored
Yes, Fillyjonk75, I'd imagine your those type of children are the reason the rules needed to be implemented in the first place.

WorriedTeenMum · 06/03/2013 18:25

I honestly think it is an impertinence for a school to tell students what they can or cannot do outside of school premises while wearing clothes bought by parents.

If there is a littering problem then deal with that.

If there is a behaviour problem then the supermarket should deal with it.

I think that these prissy rules are ridiculous. Schools have no business interfering in this type of thing.

Disclaimer:

If this is an independent school then they can set what rules they like and it is up to parents whether they buy into this or not.

MechanicalTheatre · 06/03/2013 18:31

I agree with WorriedTeenMum .

Deal with the actual problem, rather than impose ridiculous rules.

EVERYONE knows not to litter. If children are breaking this basic social rule, why on earth would they follow a rule that says not to eat food in their uniform?

ppeatfruit · 06/03/2013 18:34

Jengnr and KitchenandJumble I agree absolutely.

MadameDefarge · 06/03/2013 18:53

the thing is the trips to and from school are probably the first times kids are alone to negotiate themselves through public space. they do need guidance. and each area has different needs. for example our local borough spends 50 million extra per year dealing with flytipping. cos many of our adult residents just dont care about the local environment. littering is a learnt behaviour. as is not littering. here the kids need all the help they can get to acquire basic social awareness. many simply have not come across them before. and they do family dining at lunch. many kids have never eaten a meal as a family, or laid a table...maybe it shouldnt be the schools job. but i for one am glad the school steps in sometimes.

ppeatfruit · 07/03/2013 07:33

Come on madame ALL dcs are taken to shops etc. with their families. I agree when they're mob handed with their mates they may get a bit out of control but apart from having an adult accompany them home what would you suggest? Banning eating and drinking on the way home won't improve the behaviour of some of them.

As a extra thought; the schools are far too big now. Staggering the home times WOULD help IMO.

atthewelles · 07/03/2013 10:32

A friend of mine is a secretary at a secondary school near a large shopping centre. She said you would not believe the amount of time that used to be wasted dealing with complaints from shop owners and customers about kids from the school mis-behaving, nicking stuff, messing around and generally annoying everyone else.
Eventually, the Head got fed up with it and just issued a ban on kids going in there in their uniforms. It had nothing to do with wanting to 'control' what the kids did out of school hours and everything to do with not wanting to be held responsible for their behaviour outside of school and having to waste time on it to the detriment of the work she and her staff were actually paid to do.
Apparently most parents understood and totally accepted the new rule but a few parents were on the phone whinging about their children's rights etc. My friend said most of the whingey parents were the very ones whose children were causing a lot of the problems in the first place.

ppeatfruit · 07/03/2013 15:09

I think the O.P., where is she BTW? just wanted her DD to buy her a loaf on the way back from school I suppose her DD could put a different top on over her uniform.

greenandcabbagelooking · 07/03/2013 15:16

I'm here, just reading all the arguing. Having decided after five posts that the rules are fine, and I should buy my own bread. I doubt school would punish a child having a drink of water on the way home.

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