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To think these school rules are OTT?

138 replies

greenandcabbagelooking · 06/03/2013 08:19

The Tesco store on X road is out of bounds to pupils in uniform, including before and after school.

Pupils may not eat or drink in school uniform on public transport or whilst walking.

So DD can't grab me a loaf of bread in Tesco on her way home, or have a banana on her walk home. Are schools allowed to dictate what pupils do in their own time like this?

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Flobbadobs · 06/03/2013 09:40

Polly DS's school have the rule about blazers, they can only take them off with the teachers permission.

TheSeniorWrangler · 06/03/2013 09:41

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fluffyraggies · 06/03/2013 09:43

flob don't start me! DDs school have started getting picky about what outdoor coat the kids are allowed to wear Hmm

No fur around the hood ..... must be black .... no logos, FFS.

freddiefrog · 06/03/2013 09:48

First one, ok, although our local shops put a limit on how many kids in the shop at one time, rather than just banning them all. Then the child getting a pint of milk on the way home isn't penalised

The second one, I don't see that the school have the right to dictate how and when a child can eat. My daughters are starving when they come out of school so I usually take a banana or cereal bar with me when I pick them up to eat on the way home. Ban them from McDonald's by all means, but an out right ban isn't fair.

Our local secondary (which my eldest will be going to in September) makes all sorts of demands in what the kids can and can't do on their way to and from school, I don't mind the ban from the chip shop, but they also dictate when they can and can't wear coats to school, what kind of footwear - no boots when we had 6 inches of snow a couple of months ago - if a child does wear wellies in the snow, or a coat before the head has given permission, they are taught in isolation for the day

freddiefrog · 06/03/2013 09:50

Oh, and the coat the school dictate when they can wear, is a school uniform coat, so not random hoodies or anything outrageous

Flobbadobs · 06/03/2013 09:50

fluffy yep same here too, weirdly they haven't mentioned his dayglo football boots though!

AudrinaAdare · 06/03/2013 09:53

DD's school have issued them all wilth a Regulation School Coat.

It's only a bloody local sink comp.

It's hard enough to get teenagers to wear a coat at all and now none of them wear it even in the snow / rain. I'll be even crosser next year when DD outgrows it and I have to buy one myself.

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AudrinaAdare · 06/03/2013 09:56

Oh and this is the same school which changed the uniform, deigning to let me know on the last day of term in July when I had already bought and labelled everything so it couldn't be taken back to the shop. And then they did it again the next year. Apparently most people buy uniform in the last week of August Hmm

FryOneFatManic · 06/03/2013 09:56

First rule fine, I think.

Second rule is stupid as a blanket ban. I can understand about not going into Mcdonalds, etc, but banning eating and drinking altogether when some pupils will be taking ages to get home because they live out in the villages? Or if they have a medical reason to need food or drink, eg DD's friend is diabetic and has sometimes needed to get food out and eat it at what might appear to be random times.

And there have been times when I've collected the children and taken them out to eat still in uniform because of things like appointments or other stuff we've needed to do meaning I've no time to let them change first. Not often but it has happened. I'd like to see DD being punished for my choices, that's a battle they wouldn't win.

FryOneFatManic · 06/03/2013 09:59

I am someone who buys uniform late in August. Reason is that I've been caught out by sudden growth spurts in both DCs and had bought uniform items that they no longer fitted come first day of term.

Sunnymeg · 06/03/2013 10:03

I wonder how the no eating in the street, wearing school uniform, works for those children who have diabetes and may need a snack as soon as school has finished.

AudrinaAdare · 06/03/2013 10:06

That did happen to me one year FryOneFatManic and there was nothing left in the shops. Major panic!

So far the school has had blue shirt / plain black jersey / blazer, then blue polo shirt / logo jersey / own plain black coat, then white shirt / different logo jersey, tie and school coat combos and DD is only in year 8.

Startail · 06/03/2013 10:08

I'd tell the school and the supermarket to mind their own business and ignore totally.

Nothing to do with either what children do before or after school.

FryOneFatManic · 06/03/2013 10:12

We do have warning that the school uniform for DS is changing in September, but so far, no other info on what the changes will be. I'm betting on switching from navy to purple. A lot of stuff around the school has recently changed to purple.

At least we have some warning. And DD (currently Yr8 at secondary) will have to change uniform for Yrs 10 and 11. Her secondary has two different uniforms for Key Stage 3 and Key Stage 4. Luckily, a lot of it is unisex so jumpers etc can be saved for DS.

FryOneFatManic · 06/03/2013 10:13

Actually as far as I am aware, DD's school only asks that out of school the kids keep their uniform tidy and to mind their behaviour, I don't find these request unreasonable tbh.

AudrinaAdare · 06/03/2013 10:24

Nice that they have warned you. DD's school shop sold me a lot of uniform items including P.E kit knowing that it was going to change and then became unavailable on all three dates I was given for a refund / exchange.

I ended up helping myself from their stocks and leaving the previous stuff. Good job I am honest!

Bramshott · 06/03/2013 10:25

Surely with those rules it's fine to drink or eat at the bus stop/in the street, you just have to be standing still??

pickledparsnip · 06/03/2013 10:28

Sounds completely unreasonable to me! Madness.

claraschu · 06/03/2013 10:28

Are these rules legal?

MadameDefarge · 06/03/2013 10:28

ds' school is pretty draconian. same rules plus more. but there are good reason for it. we live in a part of london which has a high proportion of fast food outlets chicken shops etc. the rule is they must be home 20 mins of leaving school. this prevents them congregating in chicken shops in largish gangs and heads of the mob mentality when another school troupe arrive. they can do what they like once changed.

MadameDefarge · 06/03/2013 10:35

clara they would probably be in the parent home contract. so if you signed it you signed up for it. the odd banana would be fine but kids rattling around with money at schol then stuffing themseves with shit while shrieking loudly and blocking avement and littering is a daily sight round here. apart from the schools with rules. it works. the head even cycles round the streets chivvying kids home. it dels with all sorts of issues in a benign way.

nailak · 06/03/2013 10:36

so no after school activities? I used to do stuff after school withiout going home first!

MadameDefarge · 06/03/2013 10:42

they do three days compulsory extended activities and heaps of other ones. you can get permission to be in school uniform after an out of school activity. the rules might be strict. but the kids generaly respect them. and when see other school kids from other schools im glad ds is where he is. they are learning vital life skills especially for work.

AmberLeaf · 06/03/2013 10:44

The first one could be down to the store requesting it, so not aure about that one.

The second one is IMO unreasonable, however, I do wish that parents would impress upon their children how unacceptable litter dropping is.

Takeaway boxes and chicken bones all over the pavement is disgusting, I would be so annoyed if I saw my children doing that. Mine bring their rubbish home with them!

My boys [secondary] school have issued school coats and they are the only coats they are allowed to wear to school, lots of children don't like them and so just go with no coat at all.

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