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Prince Harrys £20'000 holiday!

114 replies

chickensarmpit · 23/02/2013 11:24

Currently i am sat amongst a zillion bills wondering which one needs paying first. My eldest dd needs shoes and i haven't had a decent haircut in god knows how long. My Oh lost his job and i'm the only one working.
Out of sheer boredom and the fact i like the comments Grin i popped onto The Mail online, only to be met with Prince Harry having a jolly old time on a £20'000 a week holiday. I thought we were all supposed to be in this together? it says the holiday was paid for by his father but when was the last time that lazy bastard had a job? So how can he pay for it? Yes it was us! the dickhead taxpayer who funded his little jaunt.

I'm so fucked off that so many people in this country are loosing there jobs, homes and yet these leaches are still living it up . Why,when times are so tough for thousands are we still paying for these people? they're no different than us. So why?

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CruCru · 23/02/2013 13:34

£20k is easily spent if he had to take some security people with him. Presumably he can't safely stay at a self catering apartment with no security?

LahleeMooloo · 23/02/2013 13:36

The royal family are the biggest scroungers off the state there is.

ExitPursuedByABear · 23/02/2013 13:47
ChairmanWow · 23/02/2013 13:51

Shove 'em in a council house and leave them to rot. In fact they can have a 6 bed ecohome like the one wot that so-called benefit scrounger the Mail has been victimising lives in. I'm sure they'd squeeze in.

ChairmanWow · 23/02/2013 13:51

Shove 'em in a council house and leave them to rot. In fact they can have a 6 bed ecohome like the one wot that so-called benefit scrounger the Mail has been victimising lives in. I'm sure they'd squeeze in.

FashionFail · 23/02/2013 14:03

The chalet costs £22,000 a week and is paid for by Prince Andrew, who has taken his family and guests. It sleeps 14, so that's £1,571 each. I bet there are loads of people on here who've paid that for a skiing holiday.

McNewPants2013 · 23/02/2013 14:20

I do belive the royal family generates alot of income.

When I saw the amount of merchandise that was generated by the royal wedding and the queen jubilee ( most I think unofficial) people do make money from the royal family.

Bluegrass · 23/02/2013 14:24

It makes me laugh when people comment as if taking away their royal status would make them ordinary, or like the rest of us. They would still be incredibly wealthy and they would still earn the bulk of their money from the rent paid on the land they own.

Look at the Duke of Westminster, he doesn't need to be "royal" to own vast swathes of London which give him a personal wealth of about 7billion quid. If you want to take the royal family's estates off them are you going to take his as well? If so who's land is safe from being confiscated "for the people"? Are we just going to end up like Zimbabwe grabbing whatever property takes our fancy and bugger the law!

flatbread · 23/02/2013 14:41

It wouldn't make them ordinary, but less of public scroungers. We wouldn't have to pay for their security, let them pay it out of their own income. Nor would they be entitled to zero inheritance tax or earnings from government land or refurbishment of private residences from the public purse.

Certain Crown properties, such as the Duchy of Cornwall and Lancaster are not the private property of the Elizabeth or Charles. Just like no. 10 is not the private property of David Cameron, but the residence of the PM.

If we became a Republic, the majority of the so-called Crown earning and wealth would legally pass on to the Republic, us the people, instead of a family of scroungers.

And inheritance tax, maintenance and repair of the private land and properties would put a vast dent on the royal family's disposable income, if they were treated like normal citizens.

flatbread · 23/02/2013 14:45

Apologies, from the DM. But very interesting reading, nonetheless

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-114527/The-Queen-taxing-loyalty-people.html

flatbread · 23/02/2013 14:47

From the article, The Queen is Taxing the Loyalty of her People

Some old toadies think it was dastardly of me to criticise the Queen's financial arrangements. They say she mustn't be asked to pay inheritance tax like the rest of us because it would threaten the existence of the monarchy.
They also absurdly insist that she's not free to have a job, so she can't earn an income. In fact, she earns £7.9 million a year from the Civil List.
She is worth £1.5billion and the Duke of Edinburgh is worth £28 million. This is despite the Duke saying many years ago that the Civil List was so inadequate, he'd had to sell a small yacht and might have to give up polo.
Clearly, the Royal Family's idea of being poor is when the money they get from the rest of us doesn't cover their richly indulgent tastes.
The Queen Mother got £643,000 from the Civil List, and spent a fortune on horses and sumptuous entertaining.
However, she economised by paying paltry wages to her staff and so still managed to leave more than £50 million.
Meanwhile, Prince Harry is already worth £25 million.
This is because William will one day inherit most of Prince Charles's wealth.
Therefore, the shrewd Royal Family have used every tax advantage they possess (often denied to the rest of us) to ensure that Harry is independently rich.
The finances of the Windsors have always been shrouded in secrecy. Possibly this is because their advisers realised that if we knew what was going on we might be a tad critical.
Running the monarchy costs us an estimated £37 million a year. This includes the upkeep of Balmoral, Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle.
We also pay the bills at Kensington Palace, where Lord Linley who is worth £20.76million lives rent free. We support him while the interest on his fortune multiplies by the day.
The Queen is one of the richest women in the country. She gave Gatcombe Park to Princess Anne and built Sunninghill Park for Prince Andrew. This is now worth £8.5million and she's handed it over to Andrew, which means that unlike the rest of us he wasn't faced with crippling stamp duty.
If the Queen ever sells a property, she doesn't have to pay capital gains tax because she's exempt from that as well. She and Prince Charles are also exempt from corporation tax, which means they don't have to pay tax on profits from their own estates.
When the rest of us buy a small flat and rent it out we're taxed on the income.
Those who advise the Queen might be interested to know that when I said last week that Her Majesty ought to pay inheritance tax, 97 per cent of Daily Mail readers who wrote, rang or e-mailed me totally agreed.
They are not an anarchic Republican lot, but they feel, as I do, that there is something unpleasant about a hugely powerful rich family having unique recourse to legal tax evasions.
This enables their vast wealth to grow to gigantic proportions, while wageearners find it increasingly difficult to accumulate capital of any kind.
My critics, of course, said that I was a jumped up parvenu who ought to be fired before being boiled in oil. In fact, I value grandeur, respect, history and tradition. But too much privilege and too much exemption isolates the Windsors from the real world.
It's an insult to ordinary people who struggle and work all their lives in the hope of leaving just a little for their children. They pay their taxes and then when they die their modest savings are retaxed again at an exorbitant level.
However, unless the law is changed, nobody with any sense of justice could accept that allowing the billionaire Queen to avoid it is either wise or just. Having to pay inheritance tax would not weaken the Royal Family in any way.

FrameyMcFrame · 23/02/2013 14:48

Well Bluegrass, they did that in France didn't they and France is doing ok?

Except they killed their Royals, we don't have to kill them. Just abolish their status and confiscate the proceeds which do belong to the UK really, not these people personally.

chickensarmpit · 23/02/2013 14:48

Sorry for the rant. I'm just finding life hard at the moment and i'm struggling terribly to keep my head above water. I was almost evicted last week . I'm dreading universal credit coming in, i really am.
When i see a mum of 11 slagged off for being on benefits and the tories fucking over the poorest in the country, seeing news stories like that makes my blood boil. I don't think it's right that the tax payer still pay for the royals, they have there own millions. I may only pay a few pence a year towards there upkeep but i need that few pence. I don't want to pay for them anymore.

I find it very distasteful that they're spending thousands of pounds on holidays, when most people in this country are struggling to keep a roof over their heads.

It was prince Andrew, not Charles who paid for the holiday btw. I got that bit wrong.

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FrameyMcFrame · 23/02/2013 14:53

Interesting article Flatbread

PicaK · 23/02/2013 16:33

Well he can hardly go to butlins can he? (Without getting mobbed)

And it will have been paid from Charles' private income - so NOT funded by the tax payer (and I think he even pays voluntary tax on that income.

So YABU this time, I'm afraid.

flatbread · 23/02/2013 16:48

If Charles is paying from Duchy of Cornwall income, it is funded by the tax payer. Although Charles would like you to believe otherwise, that is not his private property.

It is the property of the Crown and belongs to the State. If Charles decided to abdicate, he would not be entitled to any earnings from the Duchy. If we were to become a Republic, he would legally lose that income as well as it is not personal property of that family. So yes, he is living off our national assets.

TheCrackFox · 23/02/2013 16:59

I think with the economy being as crap as it is it is incredibly crass going on a £20k holiday. The average annual wage isn't much more!

wannabedomesticgoddess · 23/02/2013 17:05

^You know that it isn't just the royal family going on expensive holidays? There are huge numbers of people who can afford similar extravagance.

Life's not fair

There are far bigger injustices to get worked up about than this one IMHO.^

This.

FrameyMcFrame · 23/02/2013 17:44

there's always bigger injustices wannabedomesticgoddess, doesn't mean people can't talk about this particular injustice too though does it?

What's the biggest injustice? Perhaps we should ONLY talk about it, whatever it might be...

I think the Royals going on lots of expensive holidays is symbolic of their shitty attitude

DontmindifIdo · 23/02/2013 17:55

Are we 100% certain that Harry isn't paying for any of this himself? What with him having a £10m trust fund from his mothers money... But hey, isn't he lucky, what with his mother dying young, I wish my parents had died when I was that age and I'd have not inherited that much, but I'd have got their house and some money, I'd be able to pay for lots of skiing trips like that.

And surely a lot of the costs will be security staff. That are paid for by the tax payer because of government policies overwhich Harry (and other Royals who aren't the Queen) have no influence (also, he's not even allowed to vote) means that he's a target of terrorists. I would like to think that any British citizen who had direct threats to their safety from terrorist groups would get police protection without having to directly pay for it, or would we think that if you are a target of attack, your ability to get security would be reliant on your ability to pay for it...

wannabedomesticgoddess · 23/02/2013 17:59

That was a quote.

However, no one is saying dont talk about it. Talk about whatever you like.

But there are far worse things to be getting wound up about than this.

DontmindifIdo · 23/02/2013 18:05

oh, just checked the Daily Mail website, it clearly states that the bill is being picked up by Prince Andrew - it's £22k for the whole chalet they are all staying at, if they have been charged the same as anyone else staying in that place for a week (which I very, very much doubt, they often get offered deals to stay in places as it's great advertising, plus apparently Andy stays there every year with his DDs, so often they give returning guests discounts).

comedycentral · 23/02/2013 18:32

He does work he is in the armed forces

Moominsarehippos · 23/02/2013 18:35

But has he kept his pants on?

hermioneweasley · 23/02/2013 18:42

Very interesting flatbread. Thanks for the info