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Prince Harrys £20'000 holiday!

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chickensarmpit · 23/02/2013 11:24

Currently i am sat amongst a zillion bills wondering which one needs paying first. My eldest dd needs shoes and i haven't had a decent haircut in god knows how long. My Oh lost his job and i'm the only one working.
Out of sheer boredom and the fact i like the comments Grin i popped onto The Mail online, only to be met with Prince Harry having a jolly old time on a £20'000 a week holiday. I thought we were all supposed to be in this together? it says the holiday was paid for by his father but when was the last time that lazy bastard had a job? So how can he pay for it? Yes it was us! the dickhead taxpayer who funded his little jaunt.

I'm so fucked off that so many people in this country are loosing there jobs, homes and yet these leaches are still living it up . Why,when times are so tough for thousands are we still paying for these people? they're no different than us. So why?

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HollyBerryBush · 23/02/2013 12:18

I couldnt care less where they go on holiday. Each to their own affordability. I certainly don't expect them to be cutting tokens out of thet abloids and having a bucket and spade holiday down Hastings Haven site at 9 quid a head.

SPsFanjoTheBigStickyHaribo · 23/02/2013 12:20

I will still MN as a royal. I will be HRMSPsFanjo. You all have to put Before you speak to me! Grin

middleagedspread · 23/02/2013 12:24

If money were not object I would send my DS on a 20K skiing holiday. Especially if he was on leave from deployment.
I'm not a big Royal Family supporter however at least PH has some semblance of a job.
Now Andrew, that's a different matter.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM · 23/02/2013 12:25

couldn't care less how they spend their money - I doubt it has come from tax payers.

It's the same when I see the ridiculous wealth flaunted by the pathetic footballers and 'celebs' who have done nothing much to earn their fortune.

I may not like it, but wealth is out there whether we like it or not.

If I had £20,000 to spend on a holiday I would and I would come here and post pics of me and Johnny Depp I'd have paid him to come post coital and sun drenched Wink

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM · 23/02/2013 12:27

I truly believe that Prince Harry has a death wish after watching the documentary about him in Afghanistan.

He seems like a very unhappy man, unsettled in his status and unwilling to tow the line that his family's position dictates he must.

That accounts for his desire to be out there and I believe he will keep putting himself in that position as it keeps him out of the media.

I genuinely felt sad for him, money or not, that he apparently hates his position in life so much.

Maybe it was just me reading too much into it though?

LadyBeagleEyes · 23/02/2013 12:27

Can I be your Lady in Waiting SP, and go on 20,00 pound holidays with you?

Mimishimi · 23/02/2013 12:32

Oh well, they own lots of land in Australia too which they rent out to farmers. It probably isn't coming from the public purse.

FrameyMcFrame · 23/02/2013 12:38

''The British Royal Family is financed mainly by public money, but there are also a number of private sources of income. The official reported annual cost to the British public of keeping the Royal Family was £41.5 million for the 2008-09 financial year.[1] However, this figure is disputed since it does not include the cost of security provided by the police and the Army, the lost revenues of the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster and other expenses.''

the real cost

sue52 · 23/02/2013 12:43

I've just come back from Paris. They seem to do alright with tourists despite having got rid of their royals. Not that I'm suggesting we get rid of them in the same way, though that might boost tourism.

HollyBerryBush · 23/02/2013 12:46

I like this rant!

www.cgpgrey.com/blog/the-true-cost-of-the-royal-family-explained.html

What a waste. That queen, living it off the government in her castles with her corgis. (and gin) Just how much does this cost to maintain?

The answer: 40 million pounds.

That?s about 65 pence per person per year of tax money going to the royal family.

Sure, It?s still twenty-three pence short of a complete shield, but it might be more than you want to pay.

Any after all, those are your coins. Why does the queen get to steal them?

Well, it?s a little complicated.

The story starts with this guy: King George the third, most well known as the monarch who lost the United States for the Empire.

Less well known ? but far more interesting ? is he likely suffered from a mental illness called Porphyria which has the unusual side effect of transforming your poop from it?s normal boring brown to a delightful shade of purple.

But I digress ? back to the the reason the Royals get tax money.

King George was having trouble paying his bills and had racked up debt.

While he did own huge tracts of land, the profit from their rental was too small to cover his expenses.

He offered a deal to parliament: for the rest of his life he would surrender the profits from the rents on his land in exchange for getting a fixed annual salary and having his debts removed.

Parliament took him up on the deal, guessing that the profits from the rents would pay off long-term.

Just how well did parliament do? Back to the present, let?s compare their profits and losses by using a tenner to represent 10 million pounds.

The cost to maintain the royal family today is 40 million pounds per year.

But the revenue paid to the UK from the royal lands is 200 million.

200 million in revenue subtract 40 million in salary costs equals 160 million pounds in profit.

That?s right: The United Kingdom earns 160 million pounds in profit, every year from the Royal Family.

So stop all your moaning about the Royal family and how much they cost and how worthless they are. The Royal Family is Great for Great Britain.

Doing the individual?s math again:

160 million pounds divided by 62 million people is about 2 pounds and 60 pence.

Because of the Royal Family, your taxes are actually 2 pounds and 60 pence cheaper each year than they would otherwise be.

But perhaps that?s not enough for you because you?re a real greedy geezer. Why not kick they royals out and keep 100% of the revenue.

Because it?s still their land. King George the crazy wasn?t crazy enough to give up everything, just the profits.

But it wasn?t only him: every Monarch since King George the third has voluntarily turned over the profits from their land to the United Kingdom. Again: Voluntarily.

If the government stopped paying the Royal Family?s living and state expenses the Royals would be forced to take back the profits from their land. And your taxes, dear Monarchy-haters, would go UP not DOWN.

Plus 160 million is just the easily measurable money the United Kingdom makes from the royal family.

Don?t forget their huge indirect golden goose: tourists.

Annoying though they might be to the locals by blocking the tube and refusing to stand on the right, they dump buckets of money on the UK to see the sights, travel ludicrously short distances by public transport, and generally act silly a long way from home.

Sure not everything they come to see is royal, but the most expensive stuff is.

And who are the biggest spenders? The Yanks.

After they?ve finished buying maple syrup and cheap, pharmaceuticals, Tijuanaian professional services and illegal pharmaceuticals, where do they go next?

The United Kingdom.

Americans fly across an ocean to see a land filled with Castles that aren?t plastic.

And why do the Americans think Frances castles are so boring and stinky and the UK?s castles so awesome? Because real monarchs still use them.

The tower of London is so stunning to visitors because the Royal Crest on the Yeomen Warders Uniform is real. It?s not a lame historical re-enactment or modern LARPing.

It?s the embodiment of the living, breathing queen.

Everywhere you look she?s sprinkled fairy dust on banal objects to make them magically attractive to tourists.

12 million of whom visit every year spending 7,000 million pounds.

Which suddenly makes those direct profits look like rather small change.

But perhaps you don?t care than the monarchs are a perpetual GOLD MINE for the UK. You?re a Republican and you dislike like the royal family because of their political power. After all, the government gets all its right to rule through the crown, not the people.

And yes, I?ll grant you that back in the head-choppy days of yore, this was a legitimate concern, but the modern queen isn?t a dangerous political lion but a declawed kitten.

Her powers are limited to a kabuki theater act of approving what parliament wants to do anyway.

Remove the royal family from government and fundamentally nothing would be different except now you wouldn?t live in the magical United Kingdom but the rather dull United Republic of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. A.K.A URESWNI for short. Doesn?t quite have the same ring to it.

But, maybe I?m wrong ? perhaps the queen is a political ticking time bomb, just waiting for her chance to declare random wars and devolve parliaments for the lulz.

But until that day comes.

God save the queen.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM · 23/02/2013 12:52

Wow Holly

I know somebody will be along with a counter-post but that is awesome, you should apply for a job as the weather man on Horrible Histories Grin

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM · 23/02/2013 12:53

hahaha, durr me.

Tee2072 · 23/02/2013 12:54

My mom goes on several equally expensive holidays a year. Do you hate her also?

I never go on holiday because I can't afford it. Should I hate my mom?

Life isn't fair. Never has been, never will be.

Get over it.

HollyBerryBush · 23/02/2013 12:54

'Lolz' as her maj would say!

mrsjay · 23/02/2013 12:55

meh he is a royal meh he is a soldier and he has had a holiday hope he keeps his clothes on this time Grin

Morloth · 23/02/2013 13:03

I dont think Harry is for marrying, I think he is for enjoyingvthe occasional crazy couple of weeks with here and there.

Much like Dean fron Supernatural.

In fact in my ideal set up I would be independently wealthy and single and just have a string of men for a week here and there when I felt like it...

Awizardsstaffhasaknobontheend · 23/02/2013 13:06

Im going to copy and save that! Agree!

Awizardsstaffhasaknobontheend · 23/02/2013 13:07

Oh one more thing. If we didnt have the queen we would have a president. You think they would cost less??

hermioneweasley · 23/02/2013 13:07

I think there's a difference between people who have earned their money and can spend it however they like, and the parasites that are the Royal family.

HoHoHoNoYouDont · 23/02/2013 13:10

How can you be sure he paid. The holiday may be worth 20k but the likelihood is that it's a freebie from a friend/contact who by having a Royal stay at his gaff raises his own profile and connection. Good yet expensive PR.

Tee2072 · 23/02/2013 13:11

You're assuming my mother earned her money, hermione, assuming you were referring to my post. I didn't say how she can afford so many expensive holidays.

flatbread · 23/02/2013 13:21

Holly,

You have it wrong. A lot of that land belongs to the 'Crown' e.g., the government. If we were to abolish the monarchy, the land would not be Charles private property, it would belong to the Republic.

Recent court rulings have enforced that the Dutchy of Cornwall is not a private land-holding, but a public entity. If we became a Republic tomorrow, the duchy would become a part of the Republic, as it has never been the private estate of this particular royal family.

Plus if they had to pay inheritance tax lit the rest of us, they would owe the exchequer millions for their private land and palaces. Nor should private residences of the royals be repaired/maintained by the public purse.

mrsjay · 23/02/2013 13:22

does it really matter if he is on holiday why bother to care it isnt his fault people are skint, least he has a 'job' and seems to want to do his job and not flounce about there is plenty of socialites who flounce about living off daddys money and dont do a thing except go to chairity dos fly off to the slopes for the weekend blah blah,

flatbread · 23/02/2013 13:23

Pkease see this for a more detailed explanation of the true cost of the monarchy

www.republic.org.uk/valueformoneymyth.pdf

flatbread · 23/02/2013 13:25

Key highlight of the Report from the non-profit Republican think-tank

The estimated total annual cost of the monarchy to taxpayers is £202.4m, around five times the official figure published by the royal household (£38.3m last year).

The official figure excludes a number of costs, including round-the-clock security, lavish royal visits and lost revenue from the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall.

Civil List expenditure has increased by 94 per cent in real terms over the last two decades.

£202.4m is equivalent to 9,560 nurses, 8,200 police officers and more than the total annual Ministry of Defence spending on food.

The total cost is also equivalent to a number of high profile government cuts, including cuts to the Sure Start programme.

The British monarchy is 112 times as expensive as the Irish president and more than twice as expensive as the French semi-presidential system.

Britain's royal family is the most expensive in Europe at more than double the cost of the Dutch monarchy.

Taxpayers are kept in the dark about the exact cost of the monarchy, due to the royal household's exemption from the Freedom of Information Act and widespread misunderstanding about the nature of the royal family's finances.