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to not understand people announcing that they're 'Getting Engaged'.

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atthewelles · 18/02/2013 13:12

I mean, either you've agreed between you that you want to get married or you haven't. Tellling everyone that you're 'going to get engaged at Christmas' or that 'we're going to Paris to get engaged' doesn't really make sense. Surely its more exciting to wait until you have the ring and then make a general announcement that you 'are engaged' instead of letting everyone know in advance and then expecting them to get excited and ooh and aah when you appear with a diamond flashing on your finger.

I'm not giving out about it, I just don't understand why people want to take the excitement and surprise out of the occasion like this.

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EllieArroway · 20/02/2013 12:17

I just don't get why she assumes her way is the only right way. It's peculiar

She doesn't. She assumes that her definition is the prevailing one in this country (an agreement to get married, nothing more) - and she's right. It is.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/02/2013 12:22

We-eeeel .... I think she does rather assume. Her definition isn't the prevailing one in this country. Shedloads of people do the whole 'we will get engaged at Christmas' thing, and loads more get engaged but don't plan to get married.

Personally I think they're odd, but I do recognize that they are just seeing what 'being engaged' means differently from me. Or from her.

atthewelles · 20/02/2013 12:30

I don't assume my way is the right way. I personally don't understand people announcing that they're 'going to get engaged' and many many posters have agreed with me and we have all explained our reasons. However, you seem to have taken umbrage over this for some reason Confused. Feel free to disagree with my view by all means (some other posters have) but stop being so tight lipped about it.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/02/2013 12:33

Ok, fair enough.

I'm not taking umbrage, just confused why you think you should have to understand. Not everyone is like you. It's no big deal - just live and let live, eh?

They're happy. You can tune out the engagement babble if you don't like it. Nobody dies.

atthewelles · 20/02/2013 12:36

I don't think I have to understand. This is a forum, people share things that they find strange or annoying or upsetting or irritating and other people give their views. If you don't like the thread fine, don't read it. But loads of people have joined in the discussion. We're just enjoying a bit of a chat about something not particularly earth shattering or crucial. Is that okay?

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/02/2013 12:38

I was perfectly happy with the thread, I thought it was all quite interesting. In fact I sort of assumed that was the idea, until just now.

Sorry about that.

YouOldSlag · 20/02/2013 13:46

And, yes, YouOldSlag - of course people are entitled to, and yes, it's nice that they are happy (for the 12 months that the marriage lasts) but that doesn't mean that we can't discuss it, surely? Isn't that what a discussion forum is meant to be for?

What a ridiculous assumption. I went to Paris to "get engaged" and we've been married 7 years.

I am aware of what discussion forums are about, yes, thank you.

I just think this is a killjoy miserable thread and if people want to get excited about being engaged and getting a ring, I'm happy for them.

I don't see it as attention seeking or milking it, I see it as a couple telling close friends and family that their relationship has moved up a step and he will be buying her a ring.

I would be happy for them. I would not think they were attention seeking, nor would I point out that the fact they have agreed on matrimony is as good as a betrothal and anything in excess of that is now superfluous.

I would simply think "Hooray, Bob and Sue are going all the way!"

LaQueen · 20/02/2013 13:48

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YouOldSlag · 20/02/2013 13:54

Well I was 36 when DH whisked me off to Paris to give me the ring. We had talked marriage through in principle and since I was pregnant already and we were living together, it wasn't massive shock when we came back saying we were engaged. We both knew why we were going, and I knew he had the ring.

I don't think it was attention seeking. I certainly was not emotionally immature. We talked at length about marriage prior to getting the ring on my finger as marriage is a massive decision that needs planning and talking through.

Kind of the opposite of emotionally immature I'd say.

YouOldSlag · 20/02/2013 13:55

I think the type of person (and it's invariably the woman, I think) who behaves like this is probably quite attention seeking...always wanting some sparkle and glitter...wanting to the the centre of everyone's world, maybe?

I'm sure you may be right in some cases, but it does sound like a very sweeping generalisation.

atthewelles · 20/02/2013 14:02

I just think this is a killjoy miserable thread quote

What a precious, whingy comment. So, not everyone understands the point of setting a date to 'get engaged' and announcing this beforehand. Live with it. Why do you care what we think? We're just expressing a view, that's all.

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EllieArroway · 20/02/2013 14:23

I am aware of what discussion forums are about, yes, thank you Then stop moaning about the fact that other people are discussing something and coming up with a different viewpoint to you.

I think going to Paris to "get engaged" is pathetic. To celebrate the engagement, fine. To "get engaged" is meaningless. If you had already agreed to get married, you were already engaged.

And sorry, your personal experience aside, there's little doubt that for lots of people it's all about their BIG DAY and such marriages barely make it to the end of the year. The fact that YOU have been married for 7 years (whoooo-hoooooo!) doesn't negate that.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/02/2013 14:29

Isn't there a certain irony, though, it kicking off an entire thread in order to make a fuss about someone else's engagement. I mean, blimey, if you think they're making a fuss, then ...

atthewelles · 20/02/2013 14:33

You're at it again LRD.

It was a light hearted thread about something that I (and a lot of people as is obvious on here) don't really 'get'. Stop trying to make out it was anything more than that or that anyone is 'kicking up a fuss' about it. What a ridiculous statement.
Actually, I'm not engaging with you anymore because you're repeated attempts to twist and turn things are just becoming silly and pointless.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/02/2013 14:35

At what?

I'm disagreeing with you, fairly light-heartedly.

Why does it bother you?

There is no need to lose your temper about it. If you didn't fancy chatting, you probably shouldn't have started the thread, eh? Not everyone is going to agree with you, and some of us are going to take the piss a bit when you start getting silly.

atthewelles · 20/02/2013 14:45

Yes, whatever LRD. Hmm

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BelleEtLaBaby · 20/02/2013 15:11

A lot of engagement stuff is so bonkers.

My dh's best mate has my favourite judgy engagement story ever :)

When I got together with dh, and met his friend and gf for the first time, she told me that night that she thought he was going to propose. I asked her what made her think that and she said 'because I told him to' Hmm

He'd been carrying the ring in his pocket for two weeks (!) and had shown literally everyone we knew, barmaid in pubs, you name it, all the while she pretended not to know. Eventually, on NYE that year, he took her to central London with the intention of proposing at midnight on the bridge. However, she had grilled me and dh on his intentions and was not happy as it wasn't what she had really wanted. She had dropped hints to dh to try and dissuade friend from doing it Shock

Midnight approached and she 'had a panic attack' Hmm as she said she thought there would be a bomb on the bridge and made a huge fuss. So he missed midnight. About an hour later they were sitting on a bench on the south bank, alone, and he did it then. She accepted, called us to tell us (no, really!?) and all seemed fine. They had a really awful engagement party in central London with a James bond theme, she employed me to make her a bespoke dress (like Vesper Lynd), there was a gift list and he made a speech about how lovely she was (which I know she wrote most of). It was deeply cringy. She dieted especially for the party as they had a professional photographer Shock

A month later, she called me and asked me if she could come over, and could I make sure dh was there, but not to tell her fiancée. She basically told us that she hated the way he had proposed, and couldn't live with it, and could we intervene and tell him to propose again, in the following manner: on a blanket (which she had brought to give us!) in her parents back garden, under the stars, with champagne. She even had a plan for me to 'secretly' get hold of her engagement ring so he could give it to her again.

She'd made a cd of 'appropriate music' Shock

After she left, dh and I were gobsmacked. Friend had put a lot of thought into trying to make a proposal she would remember. She was upset as she didn't feel it was special or personal (?) enough, and that because she was in winter gear (for December midnight on tower bridge) and she wanted to be wearing a specific outfit she'd chosen, and that it was not the date she wanted... Etc etc.

We never said anything to dh's friend. He'd have been heartbroken. They split up a year later after a year of massive bridezilla-y behaviour including plans to ride into her wedding on a white horse which were scuppered as she could not find a horse which was 'white enough'.

Dh proposed to me on the sofa, in my slobs, one Sunday morning. We got married a year later. Couldn't tell you the date of the proposal for my life, nor the actual words he used. We'd discussed wether we wanted to get married, but never actually agreed to do it until that morning. He had a ring (very lovely) and we didn't tell anyone we were engaged for two weeks as I was in the middle of finals and woefully underprepared and we didn't want endless phone calls distracting from that :) I passed, we told our families, that was that, really. I'm not sure why it's something I was expected to want everyone I've ever met to be interested in, frankly. :)

LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/02/2013 15:14

Crikey. Now that's impressively terrifying.

Poor bloke, though. He must have really liked her to do all of that, and then for her to be like that. Sad

The nastiest engagement story I know - two brothers were going out with two woman who were sisters. The younger brother proposed, all very sweet. So three days later big brother proposes and - get this - does it with a ring that is identical to the first brother's one, but has three diamonds instead of one. It was literally the upgraded version, next to the first one in the catalogue.

I mean, how cruel. I'm not wild about people getting precious about what other couples do on their 'special day', but that did seem to be to be quite pointed.

Lottapianos · 20/02/2013 15:28

That's deeply batshit Belle. I'm glad your mate got rid of her.

I once went to an engagement party of a colleague who I didn't know very well. It was one of these 'whirlwind' relationships, they had only known each other for 2 months or something (mental if you ask me but anyway...)
the 'groom' or whatever (my colleague) made a mortifying speech about how he had fallen in love with this woman and finished up by asking each person in the room to 'say a few word's about what a wonderful couple they were. Hardly anyone in the room knew her and it was just total cringe.

EllieArroway · 20/02/2013 15:28

Belle That story is brilliant. This "miserable" thread is worth it just to read that! Grin

LRDtheFeministDragon · 20/02/2013 15:33

That is monumentally wankerish, lotta.

It's not comparable, but it reminds me of a mate who invited a load of us to her birthday party then demanded that, instead of presents, we should each prepare a 'presentation' on the theme of friendship.

Hmm

Funnily enough, I gave that one a miss.

stealthsquiggle · 20/02/2013 15:33

Great story Belle.

I do, accidentally, know roughly when DH proposed - because we were drunk andwatching the Eurovision Song Contest - which we now do every year, complete with "carpet picnic", although we have never told anyone in RL why we do that (and yes, I know it's not on the same date every year, but it's close enough, and since DH can never remember our wedding anniversary I will take what I can get Grin)

Booyhoo · 20/02/2013 15:34

Shock belle that is insane!

it has reminded me of a woman i know who was had been out for dinner with her OH. they had already told everyone they would be getting married. the whole family knew. I thought they were engaged (tbh i hadn't noticed that there was no ring). anyway she was at my mum's house with other family after the meal and someone (cant remember who) asked if there had been a proposal during the meal. she responded "christ no! i've told him i want him pulling rabbits out of his arse for the proposal" Confused

atthewelles · 20/02/2013 15:51

Great story Belle. So glad I 'kicked off' this miserable thread.

Seriously, some people shouldn't be let out in public, never mind be allowed to get married.

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atthewelles · 20/02/2013 15:52

ps love the line about the horse not being 'white enough' Grin

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