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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think this teacher is fucking loopy?

271 replies

OverReactionMuch · 16/02/2013 18:12

DS2 (just 5) apparently broke a branch off one of the trees in the school playground. He was swinging on it (normal boy behaviour?).

Teacher, who is Head of KS1 then paraded him around all the KS1 classes with the offending branch lecturing the other DC on how naughty my DC was and what a terrible thing he did.

She also phoned me (I did not know she had taken him round the classes) to inform me of my DS's 'crime'. I said I would talk to him. She also took the 'dead' branch into the afterschool club and showed all the DC there and so the staff could show me the offending article when I picked him up.

DS has said that he did not mean for the branch to come off.

I am actually quite furious that she has demonised my DS to the other DCs. DS has found it very hard to settle into school and I actually had a meeting with this woman before he started at school as I was concerned about how he would settle (undiagnosed SN is my mother's gut instinct) and she has totally ignored every thing I said.

AIBU to loudly voice my displeasure on Monday?

OP posts:
countrykitten · 16/02/2013 19:08

Oh and I completely agree with other posters about the whole 'boys will be boys' labelling. These things have been proven to be self fulfilling prophecies which might a few things about some adult men.

countrykitten · 16/02/2013 19:08

The missing word is explain

countrykitten · 16/02/2013 19:10

We have lots of trees where I teach. No pupil ever climbs them as they know they would be in serious trouble. It is a senior school though so slightly different.

OverReactionMuch · 16/02/2013 19:13

I have a DD in Yr 5 and she confirmed what DS had told me as some of her friends had been in the corridor and heard it so told her. I also have a DS in Yr 1 and he was taken into his class. I have no problem in her telling him off but I do have a big problem in her parading him around the other classes and the after school club. When she phoned me she started off by saying DS had 'done something terrible' and I thought she was a overreacting but agreed that he should not have done it and I would talk to him about the environment etc as I have not brought my DC up to be vandals but this was not vandalism it was little boys playing quite normally!

Voicing my displeasure loudly is not the same as kicking off or ranting like a fishwife that's what I'm doing on here Hmm.

DS has sensory issues, concentration problems and is very hyper. My other DCs are not like that and yes, my GP did say that me saying that he needs to be assessed was not enough and he would need a letter from the school.

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Feenie · 16/02/2013 19:13

We also have trees in a grassed area used in summer - nobody climbs them, they know not to. They are in kind of copses, so it would be impossible to watch to see if they were climbing safely (4 -11 Primary).

Marcheline · 16/02/2013 19:13

Surely for her to be head of KS1, the teacher is good at her job, well respected, etc? You probably need to ask for a meeting to find out exactly what happened because a 5 year old is not necessarily the most reliable witness. Then if things really did happen the way you say in your OP, you would be fully justified in making a formal complaint.

I dont know that it is reasonable for you, at this stage, to say that she has 'ignored everything' that you talked about in your meeting before your DS started school.

It allseems like a very strange overreaction, I'm sure there must be more to the story. I hope you can get to the bottom of it on monday.

Feenie · 16/02/2013 19:14

this was not vandalism it was little boys playing quite normally!

Our little boys wouldn't do this. I have a massive issue with your ridiculous stereotyping of boys here, OP. Hmm

BarbarianMum · 16/02/2013 19:15

And we build fires, and dens, and play in streams and dig great big dirty holes. We do not minimise or eradicate risk, we manage it and teach the children to manage it also.

Of course not all of this can be directly translated to a school playground but the idea that they need to be sterile places devoid of any excitement is profoundly bloody depressing. Why don't we just sit them infront of a screen each break. Nice and safe.

digerd · 16/02/2013 19:15

I don't know one girl who wanted to or did climb trees. And know only one girl who climbed a lamp post and did it to show if the boys can do it so can she, and that was my 4 year-old sister. She also at 2 showed off to a friend that she could do a backward somersault out of the bedroom window, which she did and fractured her skull. But she never climbed a tree or swung on the branches when she got a bit older as said she knew that was dangerous. She loved her kiss chases, but deliberately slowed down as could out run all the boys.

Marcheline · 16/02/2013 19:16

Ah sorry op x posted. So he really was taken into other classrooms? How bizarre.

You should go to head.

Feenie · 16/02/2013 19:16

I don't know one girl who wanted to or did climb trees

I climbed trees. I used to sit in them and read.

Feenie · 16/02/2013 19:17

Disclaimer - if I'd been told not to at school, I wouldn't have though. We had apple trees in the garden.

OverReactionMuch · 16/02/2013 19:18

Again, the tree was not climbed. This school has also banned many playtime games and any 'rough housing' is a 'red slip' crime even if the DCs are loving it Hmm

Sort of makes me wonder if it's because the playground duty teachers prefer to stand around chatting drinking tea rather than actually supervising the DCs playing.

OP posts:
Pagwatch · 16/02/2013 19:18

Op.

You GP is totally wrong. My son wasn't actually at school when he was diagnosed.
Go back to your GP and tell him you want an assessment.

countrykitten · 16/02/2013 19:19

Confused by that last post....?

BarbarianMum - what you do sounds great but you must understand that because of parents like the OP schools can not be like this?

Fairenuff · 16/02/2013 19:19

By some posters' reckoning, normal boy behaviour would presumably include clambering over the chairs and under the tables too? Throwing rubbers, mucking about throwing water in the toilets? Should we just let them get on with it?

Quite. Instead of taking the 'boys will be boys' stance, perhaps we should educate them to respect property. And to pee in the toilet, not all over the floor, as happens almost daily at my primary school.

OP How do you know what happened? Several posters have asked this and you haven't answered them yet (unless I missed it).

Also, you do not need school's consent for your gp to refer your ds to the paediatrician. You should follow this up if you suspect sn. It may be too early to diagnose but find out when you can get the earliest appointment.

Fwiw my son pulled some flower heads off flowers in a pot when he was in reception. I took him to the garden centre to replace them out of his own pocket money and the next day we went to apologise to the teacher. Everything is a learning opportunity with children. What do you want your son to learn from this episode?

Startail · 16/02/2013 19:19

DS may or may not know not to swing off trees in school, but assuming it wasn't deliberate vandalism.

Which it probably at 5 wasn't the teacher was ridiculously OTT and I'd be writing a very stern email to the HT

DD1 climbed every tree in sight. I think her long suffering HT muttered down please, now and again. I doubt it had any effect, she just couldn't resist.

Marcheline · 16/02/2013 19:19

Digerd that is actually quite sad.

That sort of perpetuation of gender stereotypes is really worrying.

Pagwatch · 16/02/2013 19:20

DD climbs trees. Most of her friends do. I did.

I genuinely don't understand how anyone can not know a single girl who wanted to or dd climb trees. [boggle]

OverReactionMuch · 16/02/2013 19:20

stereotyping of boysHmm. Er they are different to girls you know speaking as a parent of both. OK for MY boys it's perfectly normal, happy now?

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countrykitten · 16/02/2013 19:20

ORM - your comment about the teachers drinking tea is well out of line. Have you a problem with teachers for some reason?

TheLittleWhiteRabbit · 16/02/2013 19:22

If you have other reasons to think the teacher goes OTT, if the teacher is treating your child badly, get your child transferred to the other class in the year, talk to the head, perhaps get your child into another school.

CwtchesAndCuddles · 16/02/2013 19:22

Your GP is fobbing you off - change GPs or go back and insist on a referal.

LindyHemming · 16/02/2013 19:23

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countrykitten · 16/02/2013 19:24

So now she should change schools because her child misbehaved at his current one? wtf?