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To report someone selling illegal fags?

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callmeovercautious · 29/01/2013 20:37

Where children could buy them?

OP posts:
FamiliesShareGerms · 29/01/2013 23:01

Because, Che, the relevant duty or excise has not been paid in the UK on the imported cigarettes. And presumably no income tax paid on the profit made from selling the cigarettes. So it's a loss to the Government purse, which means we all have to pay a bit more elsewhere (higher VAT, for example) or spend less (closing some hospitals, for example)

OP, there's a simple link here on contacting HMRC

HoHoHoNoYouDont · 29/01/2013 23:07

How could you be sure they're not fake?

nonameslefttouse · 29/01/2013 23:07

I create employment why am I not exempt from paying all the other taxes too? Is this new where can I get information from is it available on the HMRC website?

JudgeJodie · 29/01/2013 23:08

I saw a documentary once showing the fake cigarettes being made. All sorts of crap (literally) got swept up and packed into them BOAK.

HoHoHoNoYouDont · 29/01/2013 23:13

I saw something like that once too Judge. What amazed me was how well they copied the packaging.

ClippedPhoenix · 29/01/2013 23:14

Twit Grin

ShiftyFades · 29/01/2013 23:17

YANBU. You should report this.

Good luck OP.

WorraLiberty · 29/01/2013 23:22

The illegal fag trade is linked to funding terrorist activity, Worra

Yes but at no time in her 2 posts did the OP say anything about the person selling the fags.

As I keep pointing out, they could be sold by one of the 1000s of people who go on 'booze cruises' and sell the fags cheap.

DontEvenThinkAboutIt · 29/01/2013 23:28

Good luck to posters who are happy to buy foreign cigerettes but not fake cigarettes as I would be amazed if they could tell the difference from looking at them.

If you believe the 'guy in the pub' or your 'mate at work' is going to buy the more expensive genuine cigarettes when he visits his home country rather than buy the indistinguisable fake ones then you are a mug that's ok Confused.

The illegal cigarette trade has changed and grown dramatically over the last few years. It's not a matter of a few smuggled packets of fags.

chickensarmpit · 29/01/2013 23:31

Is it someone who's just brought them back from holiday hoping to make a few bob? You can't fart nowadays without someone moaning and phoning environmental health. Mind your own bees wax op.

baileysontherocks · 29/01/2013 23:33

Yabu what's it hurting seriously? People sell illegal fags to earn a bit extra cash because this country is disgusting and most people are struggling to get money to put food on the table and children are starving and pensioners are living in extreme conditions Confused

Where I live there is a few fag houses and its old people that sell them hardly leading to gangs. They only do it because this country screws everyone over and I know they also work full time jobs but they do this on the side because they can't afford the cost of living in the uk anymore!!

If kids are gonna buy em then they will soon realise that the fags taste awful anyways and get some from the shop, if they are going to smoke they will find a way no matter what!!!

Maryz · 29/01/2013 23:35

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ShellyBoobs · 29/01/2013 23:38

Yabu what's it hurting seriously? People sell illegal fags to earn a bit extra cash because this country is disgusting and most people are struggling to get money...

Yes, or they could do burglaries instead, or drive off without paying for fuel and sell that.

WorraLiberty · 29/01/2013 23:45

Yes, but Worra, does she know? If they are selling them regularly they are unlikely to be holiday extras.

Again, we have no idea Mary, going on the 2 posts the OP made before not returning Confused

baileysontherocks · 29/01/2013 23:47

I am legit in everything and agree that people should pay their way but what hope have people got nowadays with the government being run the way it is.

Not many people stand a good chance in life in this country anymore because the country is run by people who know nothing of having life hard, they only think about lining their own pockets!!!

Constantly I see on mn about people trying to cope through a recession, not knowing where there next meal is coming from or about to lose their home but then there's billions of ££s being put into a new railway when the money could be used to sort out the debt this country is in or sort out the state of the nhs or help people with childcare so it would be worth them working, then there wouldn't be as much people living on benefits!!!

I could go on but my point is everyone has defend for themselves alately cause this country is fucking em sideways constantly, let somebody sell some knock off fags if its gonna help them survive through this horrible time because sure enough nobody else is going to help them are they!!!

HoHoHoNoYouDont · 29/01/2013 23:51

That's it, I'm gonna start selling drugs tomorrow. What's wrong with making a few quid, it's the government's fault I'm broke, to hell with the consequences. Hmm

ShellyBoobs · 29/01/2013 23:55

...there's billions of ££s being put into a new railway when the money could be used to sort out the debt this country is in

Confused

Which money could be used to 'sort out the debt this country is in'? It's not the money being spent on HS2 because that doesn't exist; a funding profile has yet to be established for it. There's definitely no 'cash' to pay for it.

The idea is that building HS2 would create thousands of jobs.

...or help people with childcare so it would be worth them working, then there wouldn't be as much people living on benefits!!!

We could give people money for childcare so they could do which jobs, exactly? Extra childcare funding wouldn't create more jobs.

Do you not see that tax evasion - i.e. selling dodgy fags - is depriving the country of exactly the money you're talking about spending?

JoanByers · 29/01/2013 23:56

"People sell illegal fags to earn a bit extra cash because this country is disgusting and most people are struggling to get money to put food on the table and children are starving and pensioners are living in extreme conditions "

Lol, how the fuck does it help the starving children and hard-up pensioners when scumbag criminals are condoned in the act of selling fags to avoid paying taxes to er, feed the starving children and pensioners?

Don't you see any correlation between not paying taxes and whingeing about the government not providing services funded through, er, taxes?

baileysontherocks · 29/01/2013 23:58

Oh and it's a few fags fgs hardly like they are selling bags of smack and you get a free needle with every purchase!!

People will smoke no matter what!! Just some people choose the cheaper option because of all the tax on the shop ones and they still need to feed their addiction!!!

Harriet35 · 29/01/2013 23:59

They might be fake, my brother bought back some fags from Iraq that worked out at about 10p a packet. They were like sawdust!

JoanByers · 30/01/2013 00:04

eh? cigarettes kill people.

High taxes discourage children from smoking. Illegal fags will find their way into the hands of your children.

baileysontherocks · 30/01/2013 00:11

Depriving money from this country!!! Seriously if you think that the money is well handled in this country you are deluded!! What's with people thinking that the government care about what's best for this country!!! They care about themselves and what other countries think or them that is why they let so many people work here and steal our jobs or money just so they don't have the racist backlash!

It might create more jobs but how many will go to British citizens?
Some people who think they are skint is no fault of the governments then tell me why are you? Why are you struggling to pay bills? Is it because of the constant drop in price of bread, milk, petrol, childcare, clothing, car tax? Thought not because all these are none existent and why you ask? Because the government slam more tax on everything because they are not greedy enough already!!!

How anyone can sit and see homeless people, deprived pensioners and children and think its their own fault and their parents fault is beyond me because they can really control how much tax they have to pay on everything, in that case then lets all join in and say all these people are doing a shit job in life and its their fault!!!

JoanByers · 30/01/2013 00:20

If you don't like the rule of law that we have in this country, fuck off to Mogadishu.

DontEvenThinkAboutIt · 30/01/2013 00:21

baileysontherocks You could always try and do a better job of it yourself Grin.